Wot, no Daleks?

Originally Posted by Mark B

Well sadly not Anthony Ainley since he's dead.

Anybody but that yank who did him last time. The background storyline for The Master's own regeneration is well established, they could get anybody they liked to do it.

I've said this before that the BBC will not do Dr Who justice.Money will always be a consideration and unless they really have deep pockets they cannot do the series justice from a SFX viewpoint.Let us hope that the story lines have improved considerably since Dr Who was last in the hands of the BBC as well.

The film collaberation that was done with the americans and with the McGann actor proved how good a Dr Who production would look IF some money was spent on it.

However IF the storyline is good maybe poor production values won't count.The problem is that today's younger generations won't accept rubber costumes and shaky sets.They are far more critical than twenty years ago.

Incog.

EDIT:You mean Eric Roberts towny

Originally Posted by Incognitas

I've said this before that the BBC will not do Dr Who justice.Money will always be a consideration and unless they really have deep pockets they cannot do the series justice from a SFX viewpoint.Let us hope that the story lines have improved considerably since Dr Who was last in the hands of the BBC as well.

The film collaberation that was done with the americans and with the McGann actor proved how good a Dr Who production would look IF some money was spent on it.

However IF the storyline is good maybe poor production values won't count.The problem is that today's younger generations won't accept rubber costumes and shaky sets.They are far more critical than twenty years ago.

Incog.

Yep, I enjoyed that one. It's only real weakness for me was it relied very very heavily on the established 'lore' of the series. Bit too much for the geeks and too little for the casual viewer. If they pitch this new series firmly at the core fan base, it's doomed from day one.

[Nemesis]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

However IF the storyline is good maybe poor production values won't count.The problem is that today's younger generations won't accept rubber costumes and shaky sets.They are far more critical than twenty years ago.

Incog.

Dammed younger generation ... philistines

When I was a lad ......

Originally Posted by Mark B

The only Dalek story that works is the excellent Genesis of the Daleks, written by Nation himself, however this story couldn have worked equally well with purpose-created monsters, the Daleks just fitted the jigsaw nicely.

Rememberance of the Daleks is probably my favourite Dalek story, but then I`m also one of the few people who thought that Sylvester McCoy was a good Doctor. At the time the stories were incorporating a darker edge and hinting at interesting things to come, plot strands that were sadly never addressed once the series was cancelled.

Originally Posted by towny

Anybody but that yank who did him last time. The background storyline for The Master's own regeneration is well established, they could get anybody they liked to do it.

I have a goatee beard and can do evil quite well, I`ve considered seeing if I could get the role. The only obstacle that I could potentially see is my complete and utter lack of any professional acting experience

Originally Posted by towny

Yep, I enjoyed that one. It's only real weakness for me was it relied very very heavily on the established 'lore' of the series. Bit too much for the geeks and too little for the casual viewer. If they pitch this new series firmly at the core fan base, it's doomed from day one.

In no way did it rely on the established lore of the series, they messed around with it to the point where it became a travesty. What was the Eye of Harmony suddenly doing on the TARDIS, it has always been on Gallifrey. Why were the Daleks of all races putting the Master on trial? Why, when the Doctor went to Skaro to collect the Master's remains didn`t the Daleks consider that a really good time to take a pop at the Doctor.

The only thing that geeks, and I`m proud to included myself in that category, got out of the show was a sense of revulsion.

[MetaWraith]

Originally Posted by dr wadd

The only obstacle that I could potentially see is my complete and utter lack of any professional acting experience

That's not stopped any number of "wooden" performances from so called professionals.

Originally Posted by dr wadd

In no way did it rely on the established lore of the series, they messed around with it to the point where it became a travesty. What was the Eye of Harmony suddenly doing on the TARDIS, it has always been on Gallifrey. Why were the Daleks of all races putting the Master on trial? Why, when the Doctor went to Skaro to collect the Master's remains didn`t the Daleks consider that a really good time to take a pop at the Doctor.

The only thing that geeks, and I`m proud to included myself in that category, got out of the show was a sense of revulsion.

ok, point taken

Originally Posted by dr wadd

I`m also one of the few people who thought that Sylvester McCoy was a good Doctor. At the time the stories were incorporating a darker edge and hinting at interesting things to come, plot strands that were sadly never addressed once the series was cancelled.

Well I'm *also* one of those few because I, too, thought McCoy was a bloody good Doctor. It was just a pity he got saddled with bloody Bonnie Langford at the start

Originally Posted by Graham

Well I'm *also* one of those few because I, too, thought McCoy was a bloody good Doctor.

He gets my vote, SM and Ace were a great team (bettered only by JP & Jo Grant) and "Remembrance of the Daleks" is my fav Dalek story. I have it on DVD.

[MovedGoalPosts]

While I await the new Dr Who stuff with interest, I doubt the Daleks, in today's technological age, would work for viewers. Robotics are well established today, yet in the 1960s, when the Daleks were first created, effectively unheard of. Whilst you could have robotic "monsters" today, they would need to have full vertical and horizontal manouverability. How you transfer that from the wheeled 1960s concept I don't think can be done. Better to start afresh with something else that can get a new generation hiding behind the sofa.

Originally Posted by MovedGoalPosts

Whilst you could have robotic "monsters" today, they would need to have full vertical and horizontal manouverability.

The Daleks could finally make it up stairs by the time of "Remembrance of the Daleks", the had these nifty little hover units.

I think you could still get away with it today, after all the Daleks were essentially little blobby things in tanks. As long as that point is made clear for new viewers I think you could get away with it.

Originally Posted by dr wadd

The Daleks could finally make it up stairs by the time of "Remembrance of the Daleks", the had these nifty little hover units.

There was that wonderful scene with Tom Baker who "escapes" from a Dalek by running up a flight of stairs and turns to quip behind him "what about your plans for galactic domination now?" The look on his face as the Dalek activates a "lifting field" and starts to follow him is priceless!

[Russ]

You'd think the beeb would bring out a new generation of 4x4 SUV style daleks, thus enabling them to attempt most terrains, complete with a blonde 'kept' woman controlling them.

For added realism these new daleks could only be found blocking roads around schools around 9am and 3am as they pick up and drop off their 'mini-daleks'.