Sky Boxes

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

Neil - have you got an install date yet for your FABULOUS NEW SKY + BOX?

If I can recall Neil was getting it installed today.

[aafc01]

Originally Posted by towny

So that while you're watching cr@p on one channel, you can record all the cr@p you're missing on the others

Funny, I barely even use my video recorder any more, but then I wouldn't have time to watch anything I record. Guess that's what family does to you

That would be the cr@p signal they broadcast then, the one where the sound breaks up and the picture goes into mosaics. On some channels just about all the time. Quite a few channels are simply unwatchable, like a lot of the Sports channels, you know the PREMIUM ones....

Having had sky since 1990 and paid god knows how much money to them, until I can get the same sort of quality signal I get with over the air analogue, ie something you can just simply watch, PAYING £200 for a box just isn't going to happen.

[etccarmageddon]

Originally Posted by aafc01

That would be the cr@p signal they broadcast then, the one where the sound breaks up and the picture goes into mosaics. On some channels just about all the time. Quite a few channels are simply unwatchable, like a lot of the Sports channels, you know the PREMIUM ones....

Having had sky since 1990 and paid god knows how much money to them, until I can get the same sort of quality signal I get with over the air analogue, ie something you can just simply watch, PAYING £200 for a box just isn't going to happen.

sounds like your dish needs re-aligning. my pic and sound is fine and never has the problems you have.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Mick

If I can recall Neil was getting it installed today.

Lo all....

I'm still offline for a while as I didn't get round to getting Pipex reactivated until today!

So-Sky......

The promised phone call from the engineer before 9am occured at 8.45am. He was polite, cohereant, knowledgeable, & professional on the phone (he was no different when he turned up to do the install either :tu )

He knew his stuff, & was quite happy to stay with me as long as needed to show the all the workings of Sky +.

All in all the install was first rate, & I cannot fault them in any way, shape, or form.

Sky + is the absolute bees knees IMO! It knocks spots of ntl DTV, & it's only once you have paused live TV that you can truly appreciate the gulf that is so apparent between Sky & the cable companies.

It is absolutely 1st rate, the picture is excellent, & the EPG is just as good.

All in all, I would have tosay that so far the whole experience deserves 10 out of 10, & was a far cry from some of the cretins from ntl I allowed into my house.

If you don't have Sky +, get it now!

Thanks to all who convinced me that it was worth the extra £200, you weren't wrong!

I have seen the future of digital TV, & it's not ntl's ****** poor offering I can tell you!!

N.

[Tricky]

Welcome to the SKY+ users...I'd never go back - No if only you could network the box and get the video onto your PC for burning to DVD

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

sounds like your dish needs re-aligning. my pic and sound is fine and never has the problems you have.

Definately - I've never had these problems either.

[themelon]

Originally Posted by Neil

Lo all....

I'm still offline for a while as I didn't get round to getting Pipex reactivated until today!

So-Sky......

The promised phone call from the engineer before 9am occured at 8.45am. He was polite, cohereant, knowledgeable, & professional on the phone (he was no different when he turned up to do the install either :tu )

He knew his stuff, & was quite happy to stay with me as long as needed to show the all the workings of Sky +.

All in all the install was first rate, & I cannot fault them in any way, shape, or form.

Sky + is the absolute bees knees IMO! It knocks spots of ntl DTV, & it's only once you have paused live TV that you can truly appreciate the gulf that is so apparent between Sky & the cable companies.

It is absolutely 1st rate, the picture is excellent, & the EPG is just as good.

All in all, I would have tosay that so far the whole experience deserves 10 out of 10, & was a far cry from some of the cretins from ntl I allowed into my house.

If you don't have Sky +, get it now!

Thanks to all who convinced me that it was worth the extra £200, you weren't wrong!

I have seen the future of digital TV, & it's not ntl's ****** poor offering I can tell you!!

N.

All Personal Opinion and luck of the draw of course........

Being an Ex-Sky subscriber of 10 years before trying ntl after moving to a cable area......... I can say there are also plenty of Sky cretins who really screw up your house and fit a system that is utterly unusable.

Sky+ is great if you let television rule your life, which personally is something I will never do. I watch it if im in....if im out im out I aint gonna cry if I miss the latest episode of Corrie. There for me is not enough good stuff on television to warrant splashing out £200 on something to record something that is likely to repeated another 500 times on various channels anyway

For me the last Sky fitting was shocking, the wire still dangles from the outside of my house, the wall still leaked until recently when i managed to bung some silicone in the hole. The wire enters the house about 2 1/2ft off the ground, and a load of brick and ripped wallpaper is still visable.

I had a rubbish blocky picture which persistently went during poor weather conditions, I would call out Sky who duefully charge me £60 and tell me they had realigned my dish which made a difference for a little while. Eventually I find due to corners being cut the 'official' installer decided to use less nuts and bolts which meant the dish could move in the wind.

My experience of NTL engineer, polite on time, asked a choice of cable colours, showed me how to use the basic functions and introduced me to channel ntl which at the time was showing , before leaving he vacumed the dust he made whilst drilling. I look forward to a similar experience when I move in September if im lucky enough to move to a cabled area.

Ive seen the future of digital tv too..........its the one that doesnt go off air when it snows/windy/cloudy......which frankly is the time of year when you need TV the most.

Again its all down to personal preference and experience.

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by themelon

All Personal Opinion and luck of the draw of course........

Being an Ex-Sky subscriber of 10 years before trying ntl after moving to a cable area......... I can say there are also plenty of Sky cretins who really screw up your house and fit a system that is utterly unusable.

Sky+ is great if you let television rule your life, which personally is something I will never do. I watch it if im in....if im out im out I aint gonna cry if I miss the latest episode of Corrie. There for me is not enough good stuff on television to warrant splashing out £200 on something to record something that is likely to repeated another 500 times on various channels anyway

For me the last Sky fitting was shocking, the wire still dangles from the outside of my house, the wall still leaked until recently when i managed to bung some silicone in the hole. The wire enters the house about 2 1/2ft off the ground, and a load of brick and ripped wallpaper is still visable.

I had a rubbish blocky picture which persistently went during poor weather conditions, I would call out Sky who duefully charge me £60 and tell me they had realigned my dish which made a difference for a little while. Eventually I find due to corners being cut the 'official' installer decided to use less nuts and bolts which meant the dish could move in the wind.

My experience of NTL engineer, polite on time, asked a choice of cable colours, showed me how to use the basic functions and introduced me to channel ntl which at the time was showing , before leaving he vacumed the dust he made whilst drilling. I look forward to a similar experience when I move in September if im lucky enough to move to a cabled area.

Ive seen the future of digital tv too..........its the one that doesnt go off air when it snows/windy/cloudy......which frankly is the time of year when you need TV the most.

Again its all down to personal preference and experience.

You always seem to appear and try to rubbish Sky whenever someone says anything positive about it, but just stop and think about what you have just said. I, and many others have had a good Sky install and never get the problems you talk about during inclement weather. What is the difference between our experience with Sky and yours?

The answer appears to be that you failed to instruct the Sky engineer that did the installation about your requirements, talking him through where you wanted cable runs, etc, and the let him go, probably signing his documentation to say that you were satisfied with the installation.

Every Sky installation that I have had, and that's a few, the installer has asked me what I want and gone over the installation with me before starting and I have ended up with a very good installation with very good picture quality no matter what the weather. I know that there is always a possibility that you get an installer who is in a hurry and nor bothered about the quality of the installation, but you, the customer should dictate to him exactly what you want and not let him leave until you are absolutely satisfied with everything.

Saying that you had a rubbish blocky picture which went during adverse weather conditions begs me to ask why you put up with this and why you did not get it sorted well before the first 12 months were up.

[themelon]

Well plenty of other people seem to rubbish ntl at every possible opportunity, so its kind of my duty really to get facts straight.....show their are two sides to every story as it were.

Many people have a good Sky install, many have a good ntl install also.

The last installer I had whos mess is still visable inside and outside my house quite frankly didnt care and didnt listen to what I said about routing cables I will have to take some pics. I made many calls to Sky who didnt care and didnt listen. The picture quality I complained about many a time to Customer services, they said it was 'normal' due to digital compression and told me I was wasteing their time and they would start to charge me if I called them out any more.

At the end of the day im just adding another side to the story, Yes Sky can be good I was with them since the analogue days problems only started when things went digital and things in my eyes got worse and worse. But with ntl I have had no problems.

Of course Sky, Sky+ and ntl have many thousands of perfectly happy customers. People on this site seem to forget that the views represented on this site only signify that of a minority.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Neil

Ok....

Here's one for all the Sky peeps out there!

I ordered Sky Dig yesterday (all dealt with by an extremely efficient & knowledgeable chap) & during the order process I was offered a choice of digiboxes.

I went for a Panasonic one primarily because of the name (the other choices were Grundig or Pace), but also because it's silver!!

So what I wanted to know, was what boxes other people have, & is there anything I need to know about this Panasonic box?

Ta

N.

Thanks for the red rep for the above post tonight 'themelon', very mature of you.

Was there really a problem with the post that you couldn't discuss with me?

[themelon]

Yes the totally unecessary putting down of ntl at every possibly opportunity and the unwillingness to accept a balance of views and the possibility that some people can recieve a perfectly good service. The promotion of services. I would hazard a guess and say that as a general rule there should be some impartiality and genuine help to the customers in disarray offered by this site and not an attitude of 'ntl are crap, Pipex and Sky+ are best, leave ntl now'

A lot of people are here to offer genuine help and support, yet it seems the best some can offer as a reply is to move providers. I dont really think thats what the site should be about.......but then again who am I to say.

I am willing to dicuss it but didnt fancy much chance of getting any reward from it, as people have been there and done it in the past like Proppin.

Although admittedly I did click on the wrong post to red rep.........DOH

Its most likely time to move on to pastures green and new.

[mdean]

Originally Posted by ianathuth

You can still change your mind and go for Sky+.

I presume that you have got Sky with FREE install and the Skyworld and family pack (which is normally £40) for £34 for 3 months as is being advertised on the Sky site. You should be able to change your order to Sky+ (cost you £199 for the Sky+ box) or you could add the Sky+ box to your order. If you ADD the Sky+ box you should only pay £199 for the supply and fitting of both boxes and the monthly cost would be £10 dearer for the supply of the mirror subscription for the second box.

Dont be suckered into propriatory crap Sky + is a scam to lock you into rupe

so dont do it - buy a pvr

[mdean]

Originally Posted by Neil

Sky += DTV as it is meant to be.
Fully working interactive, & no promises of various features 'coming soon'.

Sky + digital Tv which

• locks you to rupert
• helps fulfil the £400 per sub per year target
• spoiling the feed with dots and dogs to get you to waste money on this interactive trash that poor cable viewers are deprived of

Cable and Freeview- DTV which gives the viewer a real choice

[DrAwesome]

Originally Posted by mdean

Cable and Freeview- DTV which gives the viewer a real choice

unfortunatly without the option of 5.1 DD

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by mdean

Sky + digital Tv which

• locks you to rupert
• helps fulfil the £400 per sub per year target
• spoiling the feed with dots and dogs to get you to waste money on this interactive trash that poor cable viewers are deprived of

Cable and Freeview- DTV which gives the viewer a real choice

What's wrong with being tied to Sky? It has all the channels I want, some of which are unavailable on cable. It has an interactive system that works now and doesn't cost you a penny for interactive content unless you want it to. Cable also has paid for interactive if you want it with more coming soon. As with everything in life you decide if the product gives you what you want and at a price you are prepared to pay. Sky also leaves you free to choose your telephone service, not forcing a possibly unwanted service on you the same as cable does.

I don't know what you have against Rupert Murdoch he is actually a nice guy, having met him on several occasions. He is one of the few men who helped break the unions stranglehold on the British press which gives you cheaper newspapers. He has done more than anyone to provide the choice of TV channels now available to the British public. What exactly do you think he has done wrong?