what a night!!!!!!!!

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Should have bought a Japanese car

No, the man obviously has taste, hence why he bought a megane.
He's also probably concerned about safety and liked the fact that it's got 5 stars in the ENCAP tests.
There's also the huge advantage of not having to use a key to start the car, just put your foot on the brake or clutch and hit the start button.

Originally Posted by Chimaera

I'd contact the main dealer and reject the car I think - IIRC you can do that under some new consumer laws that came out a while ago?

The Sale and Supply of Goods to Consumers Regulations 2002.

You have the legal right to choose repair, replacement, partial or full refund or compensation if a fault appears within 6 years (5 in Scotland) and it is reasonable for the goods to last that long.

The goods or item must have been faulty at the time of purchase, however the onus is on the retailer to prove that they were *not* faulty when bought.

The retailer *may* be able to argue that you have "accepted the goods" after a "reasonable time" (which is very dependant on what the item is, and for a car is almost certainly longer than two months!) but that does not absolve them from their obligations under the Sale of Goods Act that goods must not only be "of satisfactory quality" but also "fit for purpose".

One other useful point: If you bought the car with a credit card or under a finance agreement, the card provider or finance company is jointly and severally responsible for the quality of the goods supplied, so if the retailer won't budge, you can always try side-stepping them and going for the credit company!

Frankly if I'd already had these problems, I would tell the retailer that I was rejecting the car as unfit and demand your full money back, plus compensation for time wasted, needing to hire cars etc. (You may not be able to get the latter back without going to Small Claims, but they're a good negotiating tool because you can offer to drop them if they'll refund/ replace the car immediately...!)

[Xaccers]

Incidently, other than this possible faulty sensor, what problems have you had?

[greencreeper]

It's what you get for buying fancy modern cars with complex electronics - it's a headache on wheels. No sympathy at all

[ZrByte]

Originally Posted by greencreeper

It's what you get for buying fancy modern cars with complex electronics - it's a headache on wheels. No sympathy at all

I take it you still have to wind up your car in the morning then before it will go anywhere

[greencreeper]

Originally Posted by ZrByte

I take it you still have to wind up your car in the morning then before it will go anywhere

My driver instructor described me as a "Bolshevik" and after several months of lessons his smoking habit had increased to about a pack a lesson You'll be pleased to know I never passed my test, despite three attempts. Notable incidents included jumping a red light (had no choice) and the examiner having to take control of the car when I failed to spot another car when changing lanes. Could have happened to anyone. I get my mate to drive me places. His cars have always been "basic" - Ford Escort, Ford Sierra, and now a Proton. Nothing complicated to go wrong and if something does go wrong you can take it to a cheap back-street garage. There's nothing fancy that only the dealer can fix.

[Russ]

Yep and 0 - 60 by friday

[tkiely]

Originally Posted by Russ D

Yep and 0 - 60 by friday

same as the Megane then /runs

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Incidently, other than this possible faulty sensor, what problems have you had?

Water leaking into the rear light cluster, sunroof not closing properly and a loose drivers side repeater.

Originally Posted by Xaccers

When my turbo blew on my Laguna, the snotty girl in Dixons didn't even want to contact Renault and see if they would fix it as I was late for my service, the AA man had to basically shout at her to get her to call them.

Given that she works for an electrical goods retailer, I can sort of see her point...

anyone seen my coat?

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Of course, I think you do have a legal requirment to carry both parts with you while you are driving.

Nope, you don't have to carry any of your documents while driving - but if required to present them at a police station, you do have to bring both parts then. Any penalty points you've aquired are only recorded on the paper part.

Originally Posted by gazzae

Water leaking into the rear light cluster, sunroof not closing properly and a loose drivers side repeater.

Lo mate, if they wont do the decient thing I could prolly arrange a toasted car party in Poleglass.

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

Lo mate, if they wont do the decient thing I could prolly arrange a toasted car party in Poleglass.

LOL I'll let you know how I get on!


Anway apparently the whole steering column needs to be replaced, going down to see them this aft so will get more info then.

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by gazzae

LOL I'll let you know how I get on!

Anway apparently the whole steering column needs to be replaced, going down to see them this aft so will get more info then.

Thats a normal wwty approach, replace the whole part rather than try to fix part of it. This is a good thing for the car.

Originally Posted by Xaccers

No, the man obviously has taste, hence why he bought a megane.
He's also probably concerned about safety and liked the fact that it's got 5 stars in the ENCAP tests.
There's also the huge advantage of not having to use a key to start the car, just put your foot on the brake or clutch and hit the start button.

And the further safety benefit that there is no key, ignition barrel etc about where your knee cap ends up in an accident. SAAB realised this years ago and moved the ignition to the centre console near the handbrake to protect the drivers knees in the event of an accident.

[Theodoric]

I'm confused here. What is this paper part of the license that everyone is talking about? I've got a driving license, but I can't remember any additional part. Or are we talking about the new license with the photo on it?