The Day After Tomorrow

TDAT is not a world gets saved movie.

Because it doesn't (hopefully) its just a movie about what can happen in the next 100 years (50% chance of gulf stream switching off in next 100 years) although it wont be as dramatic as that as everything happens at once in the movie over a few weeks while it would take years in life

Originally Posted by Damien

TDAT is not a world gets saved movie.

Because it doesn't (hopefully) its just a movie about what can happen in the next 100 years (50% chance of gulf stream switching off in next 100 years) although it wont be as dramatic as that as everything happens at once in the movie over a few weeks while it would take years in life

Not sure where you got that statistic from - the scientific consensus is that the Gulf Stream may slow down but that it will not switch off. Such an event is theoretically possible but the probabililty is said to be low.

The 'science' behind TDAT is very poor indeed, according to climatologists:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3707873.stm

I have read in other articles that there are currently no predictive climate models that show the Gulf Stream switching off completely.

It was on Horizon! Did it lie to me? NOOOOOOOO

The Gulf Stream relies on a sensitive "conveyer belt" action, which could be "switched off" - quite suddenly - if it becomes diluted by fresh water from the melting ice-sheets, they claim.

Dr Terry Joyce, an oceanographer from Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, US, believes there is a 50% chance of a sudden climate change happening in the next 100 years.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3266833.stm

Also in my sig i will be updating every day until films release Because I am sad. If anyone else wants to join in then do we could make it a forum thing

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by towny

Not sure where you got that statistic from - the scientific consensus is that the Gulf Stream may slow down but that it will not switch off. Such an event is theoretically possible but the probabililty is said to be low.

The 'science' behind TDAT is very poor indeed, according to climatologists:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3707873.stm

I have read in other articles that there are currently no predictive climate models that show the Gulf Stream switching off completely.

In fairness, Emmerich has accepted that, while the actual events in the film are theoretically possible, they have speeded up the whole process (let's face it, I don't know anybody who would be willing to spend the next hundred years or so in the cinema, waiting for New York to slowly drown).

At the end of the day, it'll be a pot-boiler of a film - from what I've read, it's mostly about Dennis Quaids character trying to save his son. I think that there's been more made of the film recently as the Pentagon reports about climate change have been all over the press at the same time as the media campaign for the film.

[Nugget]

I read this article in The Observer the other week:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inter...202641,00.html

It was interesting to read this:

'What these people forget is that if the melting ice caps disrupt the Gulf Stream and lower temperatures, this cooling will stop the ice from melting and the process will grind to a halt.

See - Mother Nature doesn't hate us that much! Once the process of the Gulf Stream stopping begins, the planet automatically stops it again - big up to the ice caps!

actually people are suggesting that it can also get warmer. IN fact one of the main problems with the film is that people say that some parts of the world would get warmer.

I heard that the stop, would increase the rate of melting and then it could (is is actually possible for it to happen now) mean a large chunk of ice (in the film it is the size of scotland) would fall into the sea casing tusmui which is the big ol wave you see in film

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Of course, you realise that no matter how shocking this film is, whatever effects it shows that global pollution etc can have it will not make the lslightest bit of difference to how much America pollutes the world.

[Jarandco]

WOW is all i can say!

Great film loved it! Maybe a bit overdramatic i dunno but the special effects were amazing - its sorta scary to think that could happen in some sort of way.

Nice to see America admitting it was partly thier fault!

I reckon this film should be used as propaganda to stop emissions it could help a bit - even if its a small amount still helps!

Only downside i could see was the plot wasent all there - maybe a bit chessy at some points but hey i wanted to see the disaster and special effects and i certainly got it!

As far as I understood the model for the Gulf Stream, was that the increase in birthed Icebergs in the Artic. Along with release of cold water as they melt, would cause the stream of warm equitoral water to be diverted further south. Thus increasing ambient temperatures in one area, while causing a decrease in Northern Europe. Which in turn would cause the British Isles to start to have winter on a power with Canada.

As to the assertation that a hugh chunk of ice falling into the sea, and causing a Tsunami (sp). B0ll0ck$. The ice-sheet at the Artic are sea ice, namely that it floats, with 80 odd % of this underwater, and thus already displacing a larger proportion of water that the sea. Even a huge chunk of the Antacrtic ice-sheet breaking away, while worrying, is not going to cause a Tidal Wave.

Edit - Though I will be going to see the movie. Nothing like seeing American cities being destroyed by............................ anything really.

Originally Posted by Damien

It was on Horizon! Did it lie to me? NOOOOOOOO

The quality of Horizon has decreased so drastically over the last few years it is a travesty to consider it to be a science program.

[ZrByte]

Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

Edit - Though I will be going to see the movie. Nothing like seeing American cities being destroyed by............................ anything really.

I too will be going to see it, pretty much for the same reasons aswel

[Jarandco]

Well according to the film, its all the ice that melts which causes the gulf stream to loose its salticity, as its a micture of fresh water and salt, and due to thier being to much fresh water the gulf stream fails to stay warm, and drops in temperature rapidly.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by Jarandco

Well according to the film, its all the ice that melts which causes the gulf stream to loose its salticity, as its a micture of fresh water and salt, and due to thier being to much fresh water the gulf stream fails to stay warm, and drops in temperature rapidly.

"Salticity"?


Yeah, although TDAT takes something which would happen over a long time, & compresses it into the length of a movie.

But, saying that, so what. It's only a movie, after all. No matter what the science is like in this, I definitely want to see it. I love these big budget disaster films. Pure mindless enjoyable cheese.

Originally Posted by Jarandco

Well according to the film, its all the ice that melts which causes the gulf stream to loose its salticity, as its a micture of fresh water and salt, and due to thier being to much fresh water the gulf stream fails to stay warm, and drops in temperature rapidly.

you're right about it being to do with salinity (salt content), it's called the 'Atlantic Conveyor', sea water is salty, salt water gets more dense when it cools, so when it gets to the Arctic it gets colder & sinks, this current of cold salty water goes back to the Gulf of Mexico, where it warms up, rises & flows back to the Arctic - where it cools down & sinks..............

Melting ice, due to 'global warming' dilutes the salt water, the theory is, that if diluted enough, it won't be dense enough to sink - and the Atantic Conveyor will be 'turned off'

Then without the flow of warm water we are used to, our latitudes would have a climate more like Canada.

[Jarandco]

Exactly! Thats what the film actually says so in thoery it is true in that part!

But as Tez said it is only a film and a very good film, well i liked it, i just found it all interesting and amazing how real it all looked even though i knew it was all special effects!