How many will consider changing levels now? - Page 4

DeadKenny · 17-05-2004, 17:31

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Originally Posted by Pem

There has been no official announcement on upload speeds - but my guess is that they will up them slightly to match the download speed increases.

The upload speeds will remain as they are. It's more to do with technical reasons supposedly. Telewest's remain the same also.

**Paul** · 17-05-2004, 17:38

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Originally Posted by DeadKenny

The upload speeds will remain as they are.

Do you work for NTL and know this for a fact then ? or is this just a guess, as mine is ?

Neil · 17-05-2004, 18:01

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Originally Posted by Pem

Do you work for NTL and know this for a fact then ? or is this just a guess, as mine is ?

The thing is Pem, ntl (& TW) have announced they are increasing the d/l speeds, they have not announced they are increasing the upload speeds.

I think it's fair to say they won't be changing.

macuser_e7 · 17-05-2004, 18:48

Telewest's aren't changing but they are already at 256.

What are the technical limitations that prevent ntl from offering the same speed?

(apologies if that sounds a bit arsey, but its a genuine question)

17-05-2004, 18:58

I'm considering downgrading, I stress considering.

Basically the 1Mb service is garbage, it does not offer value for money and its not much better than 600K for web browsing.
I upgraded because I wanted to use XBconnect, Wish I hadnt to be honest, theres a small benefit but nothing I can actually put my finger on.

I'llk leave it and see what NTL do with the 1.5Mb service and make my decision then once I can say I gave it a chance.

magpie · 17-05-2004, 19:05

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Originally Posted by macuser_e7

Telewest's aren't changing but they are already at 256.

What are the technical limitations that prevent ntl from offering the same speed?

(apologies if that sounds a bit arsey, but its a genuine question)

ntl's upload is already the same as telewest's (150/64, 600/128, 1024/256)

macuser_e7 · 17-05-2004, 19:11

My mistake.

The lesson: think before you post!

DeadKenny · 18-05-2004, 11:50

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Originally Posted by Pem

Do you work for NTL and know this for a fact then ? or is this just a guess, as mine is ?

It's just that they haven't said they will do it and there's never been any indication of increasing them at any time in their history (nor have Telewest), so unless they say otherwise we can assume it's not going to happen.

The upload levels seem to be fixed amongst cable companies relating to the donload level. There are supposedly technical reasons, or at least people have posted them before but I can't remember what they are though it was something like it's more difficult to offer > 128 for the 600 package than it is for ADSL. Maybe it's bull, I don't know. Could be down to the limited bandwidth on the upstream channels.

It's worth noting that all UK ISPs used fixed levels (I believe) of 64, 128 & 256 for Asymetric broadband systems (including cable). It's just that in the case of ADSL the 512 packages have upload at 256 instead of 128. At 1Mbps they still have 256 however, just like Cable.

**Paul** · 18-05-2004, 13:22

The only technical limitation I am aware of is the total bandwidth of an upstream channel. They can configure the CM to any limit they like - but the higher it is - the fewer you can safely put on a single u/s channel.

If I'm wrong then I'm sure an NTL Network Engineer will pop up and tell me .......

Chrysalis · 18-05-2004, 13:58

cable networks suffer horridly from upstream congestion, providing upstream bandwidth costs ntl more money then providing downstream bandwidth. Then there is marketing, its a second way to get people to use the top tier service.

DeadKenny · 19-05-2004, 10:38

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Then there is marketing, its a second way to get people to use the top tier service.

Yeah, the main reason I'm on 1Mbps is for the 256kbps upstream, but it sucks when 512kbps ADSL get 256kbps upstream

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Neil · 19-05-2004, 11:23

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Originally Posted by DeadKenny

but it sucks when 512kbps ADSL get 256kbps upstream

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No it doesn't!!

Pea-Pod · 19-05-2004, 12:16

Why's the Poll closed? Didn't get chance to register my vote, which is "Staying put with 600K and welcoming the extra 150k free increase in d/l speeds"

SMHarman · 19-05-2004, 12:43

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Originally Posted by Pea-Pod

Why's the Poll closed? Didn't get chance to register my vote, which is "Staying put with 600K and welcoming the extra 150k free increase in d/l speeds"

Because it was a time limited poll. You're too late.

**Paul** · 19-05-2004, 12:47

There is no reason for it to be closed - I have re-opened it.