School helped secret abortion - Page 9

Xaccers · 13-05-2004, 22:06

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

Well in that case social services would be involved and it is a whole new ball game after that.However why should good,caring parents be cut out of the loop because of a few bad parents?I'm positive that's NOT what the government envisaged.

Incog.Still posting despite her misgivings.

Because even good caring parents can presurise their daughter into doing something they don't want to do.

Reverse the question, why should some children suffer because most parents are good and caring, but they've been cursed with ones who will beat the crap out of them if they told them they were pregnant?

**Damien** · 13-05-2004, 22:08

but sometimes children might find it really difficult to talk to good parents about stuff (especially conceding the subject matter) there should always be another way for young people

**Maggy** · 13-05-2004, 22:09

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

Because even good caring parents can presurise their daughter into doing something they don't want to do.

Oh!Like what?

**Damien** · 13-05-2004, 22:13

Giving up or not giving up a baby

**Maggy** · 13-05-2004, 22:14

And that would be wrong because......?

kronas · 13-05-2004, 22:14

the child should be the one to choose thats why!!

yes im talking about the 14 year old!

**Damien** · 13-05-2004, 22:15

it should be the girls choice after she has been given all the information possible

Xaccers · 13-05-2004, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

And that would be wrong because......?

Hmm, lets see, some people don't cope very well with the trauma of having a baby and then giving it up.
Or having a baby and being forced to keep it?

Those two wrong enough for you incog?

**Maggy** · 13-05-2004, 22:18

At 16 maybe.At 14 I'm dubious though kronas that a 14 year old can make such a choice without support.Support from a stranger when there are good,kind loving parents to give long term support.

Ah well what do I know about it eh? I'm only a fat 51 year old secondary teacher with 30 years teaching behind me and a mother to a 21 year old daughter and a 15 year old son.I know nowt of course.

Thank goodness you lot don't run the country....Yet!!!

kronas · 13-05-2004, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

At 16 maybe.At 14 I'm dubious though kronas that a 14 year old can make such a choice without support.Support from a stranger when there are good,kind loving parents to give long term support.

Ah well what do I know about it eh?

thats what i have been saying!!!!!

but nope, no, everyone thinks a 14 year old can make all the decisions such as these, with counsillors, i mean who are the parents ? the mother gave her life(helped by the father), she has been fed, clothed, given what she needed.....

but yes who are they parents

Xaccers · 13-05-2004, 22:24

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

At 16 maybe.At 14 I'm dubious though kronas that a 14 year old can make such a choice without support.Support from a stranger when there are good,kind loving parents to give long term support.

Ah well what do I know about it eh? I'm only a fat 51 year old secondary teacher with 30 years teaching behind me and a mother to a 21 year old daughter and a 15 year old son.I know nowt of course.

Thank goodness you lot don't run the country....Yet!!!

So you think that abusive parents should be informed so that they can beat the crap out of their daughters then?

Girls in this situation are encouraged to inform their parents, if the girl doesn't want that (and lets face it, if anyone knows whether the parents are likely to react in a bad way it's the girl) then why should the parents be informed?

But what do we know? We're just people who can see the dangers involved in informing some parents

Xaccers · 13-05-2004, 22:27

I know a 19 year old woman.
She was raped by her boyfriend and is pregnant.
She wanted an abortion.
His and her parents have threatened her with violence and are forcing her to marry him.
If parents can do that to a 19 year old, think how easy it could be done to a 14 year old.

Ramrod · 13-05-2004, 22:29

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

Abortions and GUM clinic visits are not kept in your medical history.

wtf......at any age?!?

Ramrod · 13-05-2004, 22:30

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

I know a 19 year old woman.
She was raped by her boyfriend and is pregnant.
She wanted an abortion.
His and her parents have threatened her with violence and are forcing her to marry him.
If parents can do that to a 19 year old, think how easy it could be done to a 14 year old.

That is terrible, but, as I said...there are plenty of 'what if's' The point still remains....she is a minor.

kronas · 13-05-2004, 22:31

remind me to shoot you lot when you complain about teenage pregnancy's