Carr out by the end of the week!

Richard M · 10-05-2004, 15:02

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Maxine Carr has pleaded guilty to 20 charges of benefit fraud and lying on job applications.

Carr, 27, from Grimsby, is serving a three-year jail sentence for conspiring with the Soham killer Ian Huntley to pervert the course of justice.

She has been given a three-year community rehabilitation order for the deception offences. Carr is expected to be released by the end of the week.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/3700149.stm

aliferste · 10-05-2004, 15:07

She has served her time. I just hope there are no daft tabloids that decide to stir up trouble.....

andygrif · 10-05-2004, 15:08

I guess this was an attempt to try to keep her inside for as long as possible, more than likely for her own protection.

Even if she is given anonymity and a secret location, without constant police protection I cannot see her being safe anywhere in this country - as her face is now so recognisable.

I would think that it is far cheaper to keep her inside than offer police protection - although it looks like this has failed and she will be released according to the law.

I think it is still very unclear, although the courts have decided, how involved she was in the murder of those two little girls - and as such the vast majority of people still think she was involved in their killing.

**Chris** · 10-05-2004, 15:21

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Originally Posted by andygrif

I guess this was an attempt to try to keep her inside for as long as possible, more than likely for her own protection.

Even if she is given anonymity and a secret location, without constant police protection I cannot see her being safe anywhere in this country - as her face is now so recognisable.

I would think that it is far cheaper to keep her inside than offer police protection - although it looks like this has failed and she will be released according to the law.

I think it is still very unclear, although the courts have decided, how involved she was in the murder of those two little girls - and as such the vast majority of people still think she was involved in their killing.

I think it is very clear indeed that she was not at all involved in the killing. Her conviction centres on the fact that she claimed she was in town to give Huntley and alibi when in fact she was away in Grimsby. If she was proven to be many miles away, and was found guilty of perverting the cause of justice for that reason, what could possibly still be unclear?

The jury decided what she was guilty of, and it is a sacred legal principal that a properly informed and guided jury cannot be wrong.

Maxine Carr is guilty of extreme stupidity. She did not kill anyone, she did not plan to kill anyone and she was not an accessory to killing anyone. She will shortly have done her time and has the same right as anyone else in this country to try to put it behind her and get on with her life.

**Paul** · 10-05-2004, 15:23

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Originally Posted by andygrif

I think it is still very unclear, although the courts have decided, how involved she was in the murder of those two little girls - and as such the vast majority of people still think she was involved in their killing.

I think it's very clear since she was 100+ miles away, in Grimsby, at the time. I'd like to know how these people propose she was involved - telekenesis perhaps.

Nugget · 10-05-2004, 15:25

Unfortunately, whereas some people may think that she was more involved in the deaths of the girls, it has been decided in a court that she was 'only' guilty of perverting the course of justice in that she provided a false alibi for Huntley. This was also shown in the sentence handed down of 3 years.

Because of this, and taking into account her good behaviour while in prison, she is actually eligible for release on Saturday (15 May). However, because prisoners are not released at weekends, she has to be let out on Friday as, if it was kept until Monday, it would technically be false imprisonment because she will be 2 days past her release date.

The problem may well arise that, as has been said, she is now very recognisable but, if she has decided not to take a new identity and move back to Grimsby, there is nothing the authorities can do about it - she should be able to expect the same freedom of liberties as any other member of Joe Public. Whether her safety can be guaranteed, however, is another question entirely.

andygrif · 10-05-2004, 15:34

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Originally Posted by towny

Maxine Carr is guilty of extreme stupidity. She did not kill anyone, she did not plan to kill anyone and she was not an accessory to killing anyone. She will shortly have done her time and has the same right as anyone else in this country to try to put it behind her and get on with her life.

I agree, and as she was nowhere near the murder scene, she was obviously not directly involved in their deaths - what is not clear is how much she knew or covered up what she knew - but then I guess we never will. If she knew then she is an accessory.

Halcyon · 10-05-2004, 16:56

Ok, but lets say that you knew about someone that was abusing little girls.

Would you just sit there and wait for something to happen or tell the police.

She must have known something was going on, and instead, blotted it out of her mind.

She could have prevented this.

**Chris** · 10-05-2004, 17:00

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

Ok, but lets say that you knew about someone that was abusing little girls.

Would you just sit there and wait for something to happen or tell the police.

She must have known something was going on, and instead, blotted it out of her mind.

She could have prevented this.

I don't understand. What must she have known? How could she have prevente the murders from happening?

Nugget · 10-05-2004, 17:00

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Originally Posted by Halcyon

Ok, but lets say that you knew about someone that was abusing little girls.

Would you just sit there and wait for something to happen or tell the police.

She must have known something was going on, and instead, blotted it out of her mind.

She could have prevented this.

At risk of appearing stupid, how exactly could she have prevented what happened? As has been stated already (and presented in court), Maxine Carr was in Grimsby at the time (approx 100 miles away from Soham) and had no influence on what Huntley was doing (and, from what has been written about their relationship, probably couldn't have done anything about it anyway).

The only thing that she could have done differently was tell the truth in the first place and reduce the amount of time that the girls parents had to wait to find out what had happened to their daughters - she was convicted of the crime that she commited, nothing else.

TheBlueRaja · 10-05-2004, 17:03

Im sure as hell you would think straight too under those circumstances.

She was just protecting someone she loved, whom she probably thought could never do something like that.

IF you KNEW something was going on for sure then its a different story, but as she was miles away, and he was the only party involved so im willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and believe that she knew nothing and was just going long with that he told her.

Either way im sure the press will be all over her like the vultures and stirring up all the bad memories again for the parents and villagers in Soham.

Its those people that i really feel for, they dont get any peace due to the media attention what with the funeral, the 1 year on service, 2 trials, releases, etc.

They need to just x off and let it lie.

**Damien** · 10-05-2004, 17:14

You know, I think the media will be on her side, everyone i know has said the same thing, that she was stupid and should be left alone

**Chris** · 11-05-2004, 00:06

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Originally Posted by Damien

You know, I think the media will be on her side, everyone i know has said the same thing, that she was stupid and should be left alone

I hope that they will, but sadly I think there are more papers to be sold on the back of 'moral outrage' that the evil killer's handmaiden from hell has been released, than would be sold by headlines suggesting we let her get on with her life.

xaq141175 · 11-05-2004, 02:32

She can hang out with me ... I'd look after her

11-05-2004, 03:34

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Originally Posted by towny

I hope that they will, but sadly I think there are more papers to be sold on the back of 'moral outrage' that the evil killer's handmaiden from hell has been released, than would be sold by headlines suggesting we let her get on with her life.

Regrettably I think that's all too true