[merged] Price increase

[DrAwesome]

Originally Posted by Kits

It was posted on ISPr over a week ago .

But sadly not on the Cable Forum Front page or the Cable Forum News Page... If visitors need to know about the price increases they have to come here into the forum and hunt/search through this 33 page thread.

[StanleyNTL]

Disgusting, 1mbit jumps to £37.99, my mum went ballastic over it, and downgraded us to 600K service!
(still advertised online at the old price).
NTL can't keep either its mail or new servers working properly - making the price increase ludicrous.
The market trend is for broadband subscriptions to fall, not rise!
Other countries have much cheaper pricing and higher bandwidth for the buck.
More NTL users should downgrade or switch provider to tell NTL where to get off.

Darren

[StanleyNTL]

I've since found out by trawling through NTL.COM that the caps will be upped, 300K, 750K and 1.5Mb (from 150K, 600K and 1mb)?
But the price increases come well before the new speeds will be implemented!!
And no increase in service quality/availability!!!!

[Defiant]

Originally Posted by StanleyNTL

The market trend is for broadband subscriptions to fall, not rise!
Other countries have much cheaper pricing and higher bandwidth for the buck.
More NTL users should downgrade or switch provider to tell NTL where to get off.

Darren

Correct,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3686989.stm


I'd like to see the cable operators forced to open up there networks myself

[DeadKenny]

Originally Posted by StanleyNTL

I've since found out by trawling through NTL.COM that the caps will be upped, 300K, 750K and 1.5Mb (from 150K, 600K and 1mb)?
But the price increases come well before the new speeds will be implemented!!
And no increase in service quality/availability!!!!

Still sucks either way. The change to 1.5Mb just masks the fact they've increased the top tier package above that of Telewest's 2nd from top package and there's no explanation as to why they need to increase the price by £36 a year for their premier customers and yet let the majority continue at the same price .

Personally I'm downgrading as having looked at my usage with PRTG I rarely go above 600kbps typical speeds and the lower tier will become 750kbps anyway. I'll miss the 256kbps upstream though, but I could do with saving some money.

I just need a means of downgrading without having to phone them as that's a pain in the arse.

[random_username]

Originally Posted by Defiant

I'd like to see the cable operators forced to open up there networks myself

I remember suggesting that about four years ago on another forum and I was widely derided 'never happen, private companies, not like electricity .. '

[Neil]

Originally Posted by StanleyNTL

I've since found out by trawling through NTL.COM that the caps will be upped, 300K, 750K and 1.5Mb (from 150K, 600K and 1mb)?
But the price increases come well before the new speeds will be implemented!!
And no increase in service quality/availability!!!!

The speed of the service is increasing, not the download limit/cap on them though.

[Nikko]

I find it remarkable that that people can afford 35 quid a month, but 38 quid totally annihilates their family budget?

Come on, how daft is that? I really am interested in any rational explanation - is the £3 monthly price adjustment really the straw that broke the camel's back?

[DeadKenny]

Originally Posted by Neil

The speed of the service is increasing, not the download limit/cap on them though.

Well, it's a bandwidth cap really rather than a download cap

Originally Posted by Nikko

I find it remarkable that that people can afford 35 quid a month, but 38 quid totally annihilates their family budget?

Come on, how daft is that? I really am interested in any rational explanation - is the £3 monthly price adjustment really the straw that broke the camel's back?

In my case the extra £3 makes me realise just how rediculous it is paying even £35 a month for a service I don't make full use of, and although people think it's a small rise it's just that little too much on what is a very expensive service anyway. If anything with competition I expected prices to drop, not go up!

Though I can afford it, I've got better things to spend the money on. Now if NTL offered a 2 or 3Mbps service, that's another matter (better still if they upped the upstreams).

[Nikko]

Originally Posted by DeadKenny

Well, it's a bandwidth cap really rather than a download cap



In my case the extra £3 makes me realise just how rediculous it is paying even £35 a month for a service I don't make full use of, and although people think it's a small rise it's just that little too much on what is a very expensive service anyway. If anything with competition I expected prices to drop, not go up!

Though I can afford it, I've got better things to spend the money on. Now if NTL offered a 2 or 3Mbps service, that's another matter (better still if they upped the upstreams).

So if you do not make full use of 1meg, what use is 2 or 3 meg?

Nothing personal, you are the only response (so far)

[Foo Fighter]

yeh its hard enough justifying £35 for a internet connection, £38 a month on a internet connection is over the top imho

I just look at it this, if i want to download a cd/dvd im gonna be doing it overnight as most people play games stream music etc in the day. So what ever i want is usally finished by the time i get up anyway(i even go work then aswell), the only difference of 1Mb/1.5Mb is that it will be done sooner in the morning leaving the pc idle

750K is fine, you only really need 1mb+ if your at home all day with no job :P

Originally Posted by Foo Fighter

750K is fine, you only really need 1mb+ if your at home all day with no job :P

So you are saying I am at home all day with no job ?

[Nikko]

Originally Posted by Foo Fighter

yeh its hard enough justifying £35 for a internet connection, £38 a month on a internet connection is over the top imho

I just look at it this, if i want to download a cd/dvd im gonna be doing it overnight as most people play games stream music etc in the day. So what ever i want is usally finished by the time i get up anyway(i even go work then aswell), the only difference of 1Mb/1.5Mb is that it will be done sooner in the morning leaving the pc idle

750K is fine, you only really need 1mb+ if your at home all day with no job :P

Thanks for the input. From your sig. you are on 600K, so presumably the increase to 750K is welcome at the same outlay, and from your comments the extra cost regardless of the odd £3 is not an issue anyway at your level of usage.

[DeadKenny]

Originally Posted by Nikko

So if you do not make full use of 1meg, what use is 2 or 3 meg?

Nothing personal, you are the only response (so far)

Probably not much either, but if I could find a reason they'd be more attractive services than 1.5mb at £38.

i.e. 750kbps is more attractive at £25 compared to 1.5mbps at £38, but if 2Mbps was say £40 then that would be a better deal and worth the step up (better still if it was £38 or even £35, or 3Mbps for £40).

But 750kbps is likely to be okay for me as it's not much of a drop from 1Mbps (though it's the 256kbps upstream I really wanted out of the 1Mbps service, oh well).

[Chrysalis]

I have to agree, although I want more speed, I also need to look at value for money and the fact that ntl havent touched the pricing on the other 2 tiers and the cap wasn't changed means it is now quite likely I will downgrade, 128kbit upload will be annoying but I can live with it, and now 600k has gone upto 750k it will be more bearable.