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[Shaun]

Originally Posted by TigaSefi

My parents done well under Thatcher. They doing an awfully lot less well under Labour.

My mum's a hell of a lot better off under the recent Labour government than under MT or JM. I think theres around 2 million others that are in the same boat as her too.

[Bifta]

Originally Posted by dellwear

My mum's a hell of a lot better off under the recent Labour government than under MT or JM. I think theres around 2 million others that are in the same boat as her too.

Back in the day, the conservatives managed to bump unemployment up to around 3 million, now, under Labour it's around 1.4 to 1.5 million, not far off though

[Nikko]

Originally Posted by TigaSefi

My parents done well under Thatcher. They doing an awfully lot less well under Labour.

My house apparently is going up £100 a day under labour.

However my taxes are going up £200 a day + speeding fines if I drive at 33 mph + parking tickets if the traffic dips below 32 mph

Currently it costs me £23 to get my bin emptied once a week. Thats £12.50 per carrier bag of non recyclable/composable compressed actual waste. BAH

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Bifta

Back in the day, the conservatives managed to bump unemployment up to around 3 million, now, under Labour it's around 1.4 to 1.5 million, not far off though

I thought unemployment was under 1 million now :o

Nikko, I wish I had an income that would allow me to pay £200 a day taxes let alone increase by £200 a day.

[Bifta]

Originally Posted by Nikko

My house apparently is going up £100 a day under labour.

However my taxes are going up £200 a day + speeding fines if I drive at 33 mph + parking tickets if the traffic dips below 32 mph

Currently it costs me £23 to get my bin emptied once a week. Thats £12.50 per carrier bag of non recyclable/composable compressed actual waste. BAH

Taxes are going up £200 a day? How so? You can't really blame Labour for being fined for breaking the law, and I don't pay council tax (which I think goes towards more than just emptying your bin) so it costs me nothing to get my bin emptied, long may Labour stay in power

[Bifta]

Originally Posted by dellwear

I thought unemployment was under 1 million now :o

Nikko, I wish I had an income that would allow me to pay £200 a day taxes let alone increase by £200 a day.

December 03 - Feb 04 = 1,426,000

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Bifta

December 03 - Feb 04 = 1,426,000

Still fairly good though.

[Nikko]

OK OK - £200 a day may be a bit inaccurate - it just seems like it.

I do pay council tax - I have no kids, dependants, or anything that justifies £23 a week for emptying the bin. Thats all they do - empty the bin.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Nikko

OK OK - £200 a day may be a bit inaccurate - it just seems like it.

I do pay council tax - I have no kids, dependants, or anything that justifies £23 a week for emptying the bin. Thats all they do - empty the bin.

.............and keep the streets clean, put you out if your on fire, give you assistance if your in an accident, take you to hospital in an ambulance, lite the streets for you....................

Council tax is high, I agree, probably too high, but you can't lay that at the door of Tony Blair, where as the Poll tax could be traced back to the top, MT Mr Howard, and Mr tebbit (if I'm informed correctly)

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Nikko

OK OK - £200 a day may be a bit inaccurate - it just seems like it.

I do pay council tax - I have no kids, dependants, or anything that justifies £23 a week for emptying the bin. Thats all they do - empty the bin.

Presumably they do provide the bin? And the Fire engines etc etc...

[Bifta]

Originally Posted by Nikko

OK OK - £200 a day may be a bit inaccurate - it just seems like it.

I do pay council tax - I have no kids, dependants, or anything that justifies £23 a week for emptying the bin. Thats all they do - empty the bin.

As dellwear pointed out, your council tax goes on a lot more than emptying the bin, e.g.

78 pence will go to the County Council to pay for services such as social services, care in the community, education and libraries
11 pence will go to the your local Police Authority.
10 pence will be kept by the council to pay for services such as refuse collection, travel passes, care for the environment, health and safety, planning, leisure and recreation.
1 penny will go to town and parish councils to pay for things like community centres, footpaths and extra street lighting

so in fact, only 10% of your council tax goes on collecting your rubbish.

[Nikko]

Originally Posted by dellwear

.............and keep the streets clean, put you out if your on fire, give you assistance if your in an accident, take you to hospital in an ambulance, lite the streets for you....................

Council tax is high, I agree, probably too high, but you can't lay that at the door of Tony Blair, where as the Poll tax could be traced back to the top, MT Mr Howard, and Mr tebbit (if I'm informed correctly)

Yes -the Poll tax was down to MT - it cost her the seat.

Subsequently its gone up and personally I get naff all back. Locally the streets are NOT clean. Extra contribution is included for the Fire service. My income tax and NHI fund the NHS which include ambulance response. Locally they have a massive deficit which precludes any streert light improvements (including bunging in a new bulb)

[Nikko]

Originally Posted by Bifta

As dellwear pointed out, your council tax goes on a lot more than emptying the bin, e.g.

78 pence will go to the County Council to pay for services such as social services, care in the community, education and libraries
11 pence will go to the your local Police Authority.
10 pence will be kept by the council to pay for services such as refuse collection, travel passes, care for the environment, health and safety, planning, leisure and recreation.
1 penny will go to town and parish councils to pay for things like community centres, footpaths and extra street lighting

so in fact, only 10% of your council tax goes on collecting your rubbish.

Thats fine, bifta - but I do not use any of those except getting my bin emptied.

[Bifta]

Originally Posted by Nikko

Yes -the Poll tax was down to MT - it cost her the seat.

Subsequently its gone up and personally I get naff all back. Locally the streets are NOT clean. Extra contribution is included for the Fire service. My income tax and NHI fund the NHS which include ambulance response. Locally they have a massive deficit which precludes any streert light improvements (including bunging in a new bulb)

I'd complain to your local counciller about that, not every borough has mismanaged their funds.

[Bifta]

Originally Posted by Nikko

Thats fine, bifta - but I do not use any of those except getting my bin emptied.

Ah, spoken like a true thatcherite, sod you jack, I'm alright!

How do you know when you might require the Police?
How do you know you won't get hit by a bus tomorrow, be crippled for the rest of your life and need some form of care?
Have you never used a footpath in your life? Or are you just planning a boycott of them for the rest of your natural?
Do you have no interest in the care of your environment?
What do you do if one day you want to use your local sports centre? (making sure you get their via no footpaths of course)
What are you going to do when you get old? Pay full fare on the bus?