07-04-2004, 17:37
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Re: Amd 64
The Athlon 64 is a great processor
Been running it for a few months with a Gigabyte Motherboard, it is amazingly stable with Windows XP Pro, hasnt crashed yet and offers plenty of power for games and general apps aswell as dual channel DDR and Hypertransport. Ive never seen Windows boot so quick 
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07-04-2004, 17:38
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Re: Amd 64
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
The advantage of the AMD64 is that it runs 32bit apps fantastically but is future ready (if things go 64bit)
So it's not a 64bit struggling to run 32bit, it can do both without emulation.
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But again in order to run any 64 bit apps etc you will need the 64bit version of XP too 
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
So it's not a 64bit struggling to run 32bit, it can do both without emulation.
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So if your running the normal XP your computer is emulating nothing. As far as XP is concerned you have a 32bit cpu. When they were designing this CPU they made it so it would run fine as a 32bit cpu for this reason.
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07-04-2004, 17:39
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Re: Amd 64
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Originally Posted by Defiant
But again in order to run any 64 bit apps etc you will need the 64bit version of XP too |
Yep - and if you have the 64bit xp you need 64bit comp. drivers for all your hardware !! Not easy to find !!
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07-04-2004, 17:51
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Re: Amd 64
I had a copy of Windows XP 64 Bit edition for a year or so now....
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07-04-2004, 19:27
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Re: Amd 64
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Originally Posted by Defiant
But again in order to run any 64 bit apps etc you will need the 64bit version of XP too
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/
So if your running the normal XP your computer is emulating nothing. As far as XP is concerned you have a 32bit cpu. When they were designing this CPU they made it so it would run fine as a 32bit cpu for this reason. |
Cheers for the link.
That's why I think the AMD has the advantage over Intel's offering, by extending a 32bit to 64 you get the best of both worlds.
So when I get hold of a finished copy of XP64 any future 64bit applications will run luverly, as will any 32bit applications as the CPU can handle both zonkingly well
Update: tracked down a copy of srv03sp1_usa_1069_amd64fre_pro.iso which should be active for 360 days so I can play with it now 
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07-04-2004, 20:12
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Re: Amd 64
Intel has been caught out reverse engineering an AMD 64 bit processor to make its own.
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"There's no shame in it," Halfhill said of the reverse-engineering. "AMD has reverse-engineered everything Intel has done for years."
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source: extremetech
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...129TX1K0000532
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07-04-2004, 23:13
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Re: Amd 64
Right, got me a copy of XP64 and currently installing it (why does formatting 156GB still take so long? )
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07-04-2004, 23:15
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Re: Amd 64
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Right, got me a copy of XP64 and currently installing it (why does formatting 156GB still take so long? ) |
feck tell me about it. I thought it was bad enough doing 120GB 
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07-04-2004, 23:23
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Re: Amd 64
You guys do know by the time the software come's out that supports this so you get the full performance the price will have come down anyway
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07-04-2004, 23:27
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Re: Amd 64
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Originally Posted by Defiant
You guys do know by the time the software come's out that supports this so you get the full performance the price will have come down anyway
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Yup, but I can play with XP64 now (which will be handy for work) and as a 32bit processor it's stonkingly good (which I needed anyway) and motherboard was only £80, memory £60, the memory might drop in price but motherboards don't normally.
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08-04-2004, 00:40
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Re: Amd 64
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Originally Posted by Defiant
You guys do know by the time the software come's out that supports this so you get the full performance the price will have come down anyway
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Yeah but check out the benchmarks.
If you have the money then that is the best CPU you could possibly buy for gaming right now.
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08-04-2004, 00:54
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Re: Amd 64
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Yeah but check out the benchmarks.
If you have the money then that is the best CPU you could possibly buy for gaming right now. |
That's some serious speed, shame about the 500 quid price tag though 
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08-04-2004, 01:45
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Re: Amd 64
Right, going back to Plan A re XP64, the trial version can't even open zips so I'm gonna head back to XP Pro and wait til XP64 is finished.
Boots quickly
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08-04-2004, 01:50
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Re: Amd 64
Wish I knew what you were talking about  
Anyone take pity and enlighten me I'm always willing to learn
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