06-04-2004, 11:51
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband
Hmm i cant see why ntl cant have spam filtering i have it on my domain email address it just came as standard with the hosting i bought
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06-04-2004, 12:00
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband
your domain hosting is probably with a far better company than NTL.. don't forget also that NTL are a TV company that added on the IT stuff afterwards so maybe they think didn't think about this stuff..
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06-04-2004, 13:41
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband
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Originally Posted by sherer
your domain hosting is probably with a far better company than NTL.. don't forget also that NTL are a TV company that added on the IT stuff afterwards so maybe they think didn't think about this stuff..
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true but surly ntl could just put spam assassin on their servers
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06-04-2004, 14:21
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband
i can't beleive i defended NTL in a post
i wish they would but i think until the Goverment or EU force ISPs to do this then nothing will happen. I can't see NTL spending money on this or even installing anything for free unless they are forced into it.
Just think of that if all ISPs in the world had to have spam filtering then there would be no point in sending it and then the problem would go away.
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06-04-2004, 14:34
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband
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Originally Posted by sherer
i can't beleive i defended NTL in a post
i wish they would but i think until the Goverment or EU force ISPs to do this then nothing will happen. I can't see NTL spending money on this or even installing anything for free unless they are forced into it.
Just think of that if all ISPs in the world had to have spam filtering then there would be no point in sending it and then the problem would go away.
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Economically they are being driven to it.
Demons solution came soon after they had a massive POP server investment to deal with the increasing volumes of mail. Once the new servers were in place they put in spam trapping to reduce the volumes these servers handled thus increasing the estimated useful life (based on maximum volumes the servers could handle).
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06-04-2004, 14:57
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband
i guess Demon managed to put the cost of this in with an upgrade they were doing. NTL aren't doing any upgrade at the moment.
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06-04-2004, 15:03
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband
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06-04-2004, 15:07
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband
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Originally Posted by jimbo
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Ah is that 'coming soon' by any chance
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06-04-2004, 19:30
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband
 SPAM
As the Monty Python sketch went "I DON'T LIKE SPAM"
I'm currently getting about 40-60  SPAM  attacks a day AAARRRGGHHH
In the 3 months that followed Christmas I received well over 3000 (Yes 3000) e-mails and of those about 95% were  SPAM  an 10% has the  NETSKY.B  virus.
Thank God for  NORTON ANTI-VIRUS & ANTI-SPAM
Come on NTL "GET BOB THE BUILDER IN!! HE CAN FIX IT"
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06-04-2004, 19:50
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband
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Originally Posted by david.ewles
 SPAM
As the Monty Python sketch went "I DON'T LIKE SPAM"
I'm currently getting about 40-60  SPAM  attacks a day AAARRRGGHHH
In the 3 months that followed Christmas I received well over 3000 (Yes 3000) e-mails and of those about 95% were  SPAM  an 10% has the  NETSKY.B  virus.
Thank God for  NORTON ANTI-VIRUS & ANTI-SPAM
Come on NTL "GET BOB THE BUILDER IN!! HE CAN FIX IT"
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One way to stop spam is to be careful where on the internet you publish your email address.
Add extra characters to your email address to prevent email harvesters from spamming you afterwards.
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06-04-2004, 20:03
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband
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Originally Posted by poolking
One way to stop spam is to be careful where on the internet you publish your email address.
Add extra characters to your email address to prevent email harvesters from spamming you afterwards.
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dont always work though
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06-04-2004, 23:09
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband
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Originally Posted by dragon
true but surly ntl could just put spam assassin on their servers
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Spam Assasin is a standard cPanel feature, it's not as if ntl is running their broadband and web hosting services off cPanel, although ome to think of the performance and problems they probably are
(BTW, the get the joke you have to understand that cPanel is a terribly unstable web control panel...yea, it's poor  )
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07-04-2004, 04:02
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband
A question regarding spam.
I run Spampal and generally just delete the spam but decided to have a look at some of the headers after reading the post linked to earlier.
I notice that a number of spam msgs are not actually addressed to me, for example if I were joe.bloggs@ntl the emails may be addressed to j.bloggs@ntl or joe2.bloggs but some have no similarity to my email address at all (apart from @ntl) nor can I see any cc with my actual address.
Can someone explain this please?
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07-04-2004, 09:46
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Re: NTL inactive on spam, viruses and broadband
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Originally Posted by freeair
A question regarding spam.
I run Spampal and generally just delete the spam but decided to have a look at some of the headers after reading the post linked to earlier.
I notice that a number of spam msgs are not actually addressed to me, for example if I were joe.bloggs@ntl the emails may be addressed to j.bloggs@ntl or joe2.bloggs but some have no similarity to my email address at all (apart from @ntl) nor can I see any cc with my actual address.
Can someone explain this please?
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You are a BCC (Blind Carbon Copy) on the address list, not a To or CC. You should be able to see yourself there.
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07-04-2004, 23:00
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Re: How should NTL handle spam ?
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Originally Posted by SMHarman
I said block at the server, but I think the option to opt out is something that should exist.
As I said on the other thread, from what I have read about my POP server providers Demons solution, this looks to be a sensible solution in that up to 17% of spam will get through, but the chances of incorrect flagging are virtually 0.
Brightmail the provider of the solution have set up e-mail accounts at hosts globally. These have never been publicised on the web. If a mail arrives in the in box of one of these accounts, by default it must be spam and is blacklisted.
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yes ntl need to start using brightmail. see http://www.brightmail.com
they are very good.
they have massively cut down the amount of spam users recieve on hotmail.
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