Sky Digital Installed Today

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by mdean

and by the same token i cant understand anyone staying with ntl if they can get out of it

Why tho'

You like the red dot ?

See those who explain why it is useless http://www.whatvideotv.com/frame.htm...n/petition.php


You want to pay more for BT + $ky than NTL for any phone package and tv package (WHY!!)

You want to sell your TV soul to Murdoch by buying a $ky + box that does not work with any other platform !!! when you could buy any number of DVd r or hard disk machines that don't happen to be being pushed like made on $ky adverts but will work with NTL, freeview or FTA sat boxes

Make the case cos it makes no sense

On every score NTL wins.[/QUOTE]




so , you sub to ntl and what do you get , a box you dont own , and will never own , you stop paying and what happens , ntl take the box back , stop subbing to sky , and before you say it , yes you have to wait a year , the box is yours to keep and watch what you want that is available for free , btw there is a damn sight more for free on sky than there is on ntl , right or wrong , you aint got an argument here , so therefore you aint gonna win this one

[mdean]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

Why tho'

You like the red dot ?

See those who explain why it is useless http://www.whatvideotv.com/frame.htm...n/petition.php


You want to pay more for BT + $ky than NTL for any phone package and tv package (WHY!!)

You want to sell your TV soul to Murdoch by buying a $ky + box that does not work with any other platform !!! when you could buy any number of DVd r or hard disk machines that don't happen to be being pushed like made on $ky adverts but will work with NTL, freeview or FTA sat boxes

Make the case cos it makes no sense

On every score NTL wins.

so , you sub to ntl and what do you get , a box you dont own , and will never own , you stop paying and what happens , ntl take the box back , stop subbing to sky , and before you say it , yes you have to wait a year , the box is yours to keep and watch what you want that is available for free , btw there is a damn sight more for free on sky than there is on ntl , right or wrong , you aint got an argument here , so therefore you aint gonna win this one [/QUOTE]

[mdean]

So Paulyoung a nice rant but does not respond to the key points
1) The red dot
2) NTL is cheaper than BT/Sky
3) Sky + is propriatory junk you must pay £200 for - which will be useless if you leave sky
we were not discussiong the free box which comes with your sub to ntl or sky

and by fta sat I mean stuff not in the sky epg and on other satelittes

ntl wins

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by mdean

So Paulyoung a nice rant but does not respond to the key points
1) The red dot
2) NTL is cheaper than BT/Sky
3) Sky + is propriatory junk you must pay £200 for - which will be useless if you leave sky
we were not discussiong the free box which comes with your sub to ntl or sky

and by fta sat I mean stuff not in the sky epg and on other satelittes

ntl wins

1) what is the big issue with the red dot , personally the channel names in the corner annoy me more
2) on a bang per buck basis , ntl is more expensive
3) who pays £200 for the box , i know i didnt

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

<snip>

You want to sell your TV soul to Murdoch by buying a $ky + box that does not work with any other platform !!! when you could buy any number of DVd r or hard disk machines that don't happen to be being pushed like made on $ky adverts but will work with NTL, freeview or FTA sat boxes

Make the case cos it makes no sense

On every score NTL wins.

(is that attributed to the right person)

The reason Sky+ sells so well, just like the Scientific Atlanta Cable/PVR is in the states is simple - reduction in box numbers, single connection to the TV and integration.

Most people fail to manage to set their VCR to record the cable box and then get the cable box to be on the right channel at the right time, so give up. Sky+/Scientific Atlanta take this problem away.

Its the same reason so many DVD/VCR combos are appearing on the market. To reduce box count.

[KingPhoenix]

Originally Posted by mdean

Why tho'

You like the red dot ?

See those who explain why it is useless http://www.whatvideotv.com/frame.htm...n/petition.php


You want to pay more for BT + $ky than NTL for any phone package and tv package (WHY!!)

You want to sell your TV soul to Murdoch by buying a $ky + box that does not work with any other platform !!! when you could buy any number of DVd r or hard disk machines that don't happen to be being pushed like made on $ky adverts but will work with NTL, freeview or FTA sat boxes

Make the case cos it makes no sense

On every score NTL wins.

WTF?!?!?!

Your only argument against sky is the little red dot that comes up at the top of the screen, next your gonna be complaining about the black and white striped box that comes up on itv when its time for a break!

[gazzae]

Originally Posted by mdean

1) The red dot

Press "Back-Up" and its gone, I don't see what all the fuss about the red dot is.

[themelon]

My other Pet hates about Sky when I used to subscribe:

No freephone number but an 0870 national rate number very expensive!

Even worse customer service than ntls allegedly '**** poor' cutsomer service. Many a time in no uncertain terms with software issues I have literally been told 'tough'

Software Upgrades tend to make certain things worse, like the recent one turning off the boxes for no apparent reason at random intervals. Sky+ also suffers from a number of software problems. The EPG Just hasnt became more functional in about 4 years!

The lift music on the EPG, no mini tv......please!

Now and Next....can not find info on programes on in 6 hours for info

No Subtitles button (Green) like ntl BCR2 and LCR3

Installers who make a mess of my house.

Loss of service due to poor weather conditions! lets face it we dont want TV in the sunshine!

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

(is that attributed to the right person)

it wasnt but not to worry

[mdean]

Originally Posted by themelon

My other Pet hates about Sky when I used to subscribe:

No freephone number but an 0870 national rate number very expensive!

Even worse customer service than ntls allegedly '**** poor' cutsomer service. Many a time in no uncertain terms with software issues I have literally been told 'tough'

Software Upgrades tend to make certain things worse, like the recent one turning off the boxes for no apparent reason at random intervals. Sky+ also suffers from a number of software problems. The EPG Just hasnt became more functional in about 4 years!

The lift music on the EPG, no mini tv......please!

Now and Next....can not find info on programes on in 6 hours for info

No Subtitles button (Green) like ntl BCR2 and LCR3

Installers who make a mess of my house.

Loss of service due to poor weather conditions! lets face it we dont want TV in the sunshine!

well said sir the pro sky brigade must be on another planet.....and as for sky+ well its a door stop in waiting

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by mdean

well said sir the pro sky brigade must be on another planet.....and as for sky+ well its a door stop in waiting

why is it a doorstop in waiting

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by mdean

well said sir the pro sky brigade must be on another planet.....and as for sky+ well its a door stop in waiting

Yes, they are on another planet. They are on Earth which is another planet to the one that people who think NTL is far superior to Sky are on. Cable should be the best but unfortunately it will be quite some time before they are, if ever.

Anybody that knocks Sky+ obviously hasn't used it. I have my box set up to record everything that I want in the next week and far beyond this for some programs. Please tell me how you do this with your NTL system.

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by ianathuth

Yes, they are on another planet. They are on Earth which is another planet to the one that people who think NTL is far superior to Sky are on. Cable should be the best but unfortunately it will be quite some time before they are, if ever.

Anybody that knocks Sky+ obviously hasn't used it. I have my box set up to record everything that I want in the next week and far beyond this for some programs. Please tell me how you do this with your NTL system.

Originally Posted by ianathuth

I have my box set up to record everything that I want in the next week and far beyond this for some programs. Please tell me how you do this with your NTL system.

1. With a Tivo.

2. With a PC (I have a PVR250, a Redrat3 IR device and some beta software doing this for me).

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by Pem

1. With a Tivo.

2. With a PC (I have a PVR250, a Redrat3 IR device and some beta software doing this for me).

I forgot to mention that the programs that I have set to record include the F1 Bahrain Grand Prix on tomorrow 11:40 to 14:40 and the FA cup semi final that is on 12:00 to 15:30. This is quite easy with Sky+ and you get to watch both events in the original quality that they were broadcast in and only using one box. Not quite so easy to do with anything other than Sky+ and certainly not in a one box solution via NTL.