Lying on job applications

[Jerrek]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Claiming to be a doctor or solicitor or policeman is illegal surely.Saying that you have have yay years of experience is not illegal.However it is immoral.

Yep, impersonating is illegal. Lying isn't. Good point.

[Jerrek]

Originally Posted by dr wadd

Really? To touch upon another thread you don`t want to legalise marriage for gay couples. What you mean to say is that you want to protect individual rights when they suit your purposes, no matter how unreasonable.

No one has a right to marry. Everyone has a right to freedom of speech though.

[Jerrek]

Originally Posted by dr wadd

Perhaps by attaching a copy of your degree certificate?

Then you're not lying, are you?

[Jerrek]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I know I'm joing in late here.

But Jerrek answer me this. What if I lie on my application form and say that I have a Medical Doctorate and that I'm specialising in neurosurgery.

I'm a good Bull$hitter and breeze through the interview. Next thing you know, hey I'm a doctor.

Then would you believe it you are diagnosed as having a brain tumour and guess what? I'm goning to operate on you. All because you protected my individual rights........Cheers mate.

Thanks Incog, for the thought. In this scenario, you are impersonating someone, which is clearly illegal. Simply saying you worked 4 months on a job when in fact you worked only 2 is a lie, and is not and should not be illegal.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Jerrek

Thanks Incog, for the thought. In this scenario, you are impersonating someone, which is clearly illegal. Simply saying you worked 4 months on a job when in fact you worked only 2 is a lie, and is not and should not be illegal.

That's Pierre actually

My confusion is expanding.This is the second thread I have become confused about.

I think I either need to go to bed or I need a brain transplant.

[Theodoric]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

My confusion is expanding.This is the second thread I have become confused about.

I think I either need to go to bed or I need a brain transplant.

I've got to agree with you here. I have just read the 2 previous posts to yours and get this feeling that either my brain is softening or that I really need to read everything very, very carefully from thread No 1 onwards.

Originally Posted by Incognitas

My confusion is expanding.This is the second thread I have become confused about.

I think I either need to go to bed or I need a brain transplant.

not at all, Incog, I am increasingly of the opinion that Jerrek regards this forum as an 'ants nest', he can stop by & stir up with a stick?

- I noticed you are/were banned on the 'offtopic' forums, Jerrek, how could that have happened - a bet?

- lying on a job application in the UK is an offence under the Theft Act, how could they bring a prosecution, otherwise, your attempts to obfuscate that are lame in the extreme, Jerrek

[Xaccers]

In the early 80's my dad got a job out in saudi arabia. The only way they would allow the family to move out was if he had a degree.
He never went to uni as he married my mum instead (fool)
Thankfully the doctor had copies of degree certificates, so dad magically got one and we spent 5 glorious years out there.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

In the early 80's my dad got a job out in saudi arabia. The only way they would allow the family to move out was if he had a degree.
He never went to uni as he married my mum instead (fool)
Thankfully the doctor had copies of degree certificates, so dad magically got one and we spent 5 glorious years out there.

I think the doctor may have broken a law or two

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by danielf

I think the doctor may have broken a law or two

Probably, but it got families out there.
The need for the degree was because the owners of the company had the impression that a degree made you worth more.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Probably, but it got families out there.
The need for the degree was because the owners of the company had the impression that a degree made you worth more.

I'm reminded of this spam regarding degrees from 'prestigious non-accredited universities' here. It might help some people going for jobs where the prospective employer is overly fond of degrees

We all embellish our cvs to some extent. But I think claiming you have qualifications you don't have is probably not very wise. I suppose it's the difference between lying and putting some spin on things.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by danielf

I'm reminded of this spam regarding degrees from 'prestigious non-accredited universities' here. It might help some people going for jobs where the prospective employer is overly fond of degrees

We all embellish our cvs to some extent. But I think claiming you have qualifications you don't have is probably not very wise. I suppose it's the difference between lying and putting some spin on things.

Yeah, there's a difference between someone saying they have a BEng and going into a draftmans job they've done for 5 years already, and someone saying they have a medical qualification when they have no experience at all.

[Pierre]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerrek
How do you propose to attach the proof of your degree?


Perhaps by attaching a copy of your degree certificate?

By attaching your "fake" certificate.

Thanks Incog, for the thought. In this scenario, you are impersonating someone, which is clearly illegal. Simply saying you worked 4 months on a job when in fact you worked only 2 is a lie, and is not and should not be illegal.

A lie, is a lie, is a lie.

Ok then what if you are a qualified doctor but you have lied about a procedure that you say you can perform but actually have no experience in performing?????

You argument is weak on every level

[Russ]

Apologies for dragging this one up again but look at this - they may be better drivers but when it comes to telling the truth.......