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Old 28-03-2004, 14:53   #16
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Re: Do ntl encrypt DOCSIS cable modem traffic?

The cardinal rule is that bandit country starts at the edge of your network, i.e. where you stop controlling traffic, treat it as visible to all. This doesn't apply only to ntl, but generally, in fact I apply it to the internal network my team uses.

Downstream traffic is more vulnerable than upstream though, but both can be snooped with the right equipment, so use SSL, SSH, VPN, PGP if you have anything you wouldn't be happy to have seen.
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Re: Do ntl encrypt DOCSIS cable modem traffic?

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So ignorant!
Not it isn't - but your reply certainly appears to be.

Who do you think is going to go to all this trouble of getting the right equipment, and hacks, just to monitor your internet traffic ?

Have you ever actually looked at the output from packet analysers - it is a lot of hard work following single tcp conversations that are buried in lots of other network traffic (and even then you can only try it with the ones that arn't already encrypted by things like SSL).

My opinion is that you are being extremly paranoid - you might not like that, or agree, but it most certainly is not being ignorant.
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Re: Do ntl encrypt DOCSIS cable modem traffic?

I have no problems with ppl sniffing my unsecure packets.. The only really important stuff I dont want out, like CC numbers, and only used on secure sites.. You'd be an idiot to blankly email these numbers out, or put them onto an unsecure site.

What I find alot more dangerous, is if ppl start uncapping their modems, which would have a detrimental effect on ntl. It would even put their bandwidth costs up, and then be forced to relay these costs to customers.
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Re: Do ntl encrypt DOCSIS cable modem traffic?

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I love this arguement

I'll be over later (shalll we say 2am) to rummage through you sock drawer. I mean, you have nothing to worry about right?

But back on topic, If it isn't (and I get the feeling it is not) then it should be.



pathetic , yes i would have a problem because it would be breaking and entering , apologies for the off topic post everyone
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