Oh dear, here we go again....

[Russ]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3569357.stm

[Ramrod]

I refuse to believe that all these footballers are guilty, I smell golddigging

Originally Posted by Russ D

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3569357.stm

i think these girls are doing it to get into the papers so they can sell there story and rake in the money

[Bex]

Originally Posted by smegs

i think these girls are doing it to get into the papers so they can sell there story and rake in the money

maybe so, maybe not
rape happens all the time, all over the place, these cases only get into the news because of who it is doing the raping...... maybe some footballers think that they can take what they want, whose knows?
without actually being there i guess we will never know the validity of the claims

but if the claim is true, then i feel incredibly sorry for the girl, being violated in that way must be just awful

Originally Posted by bexy

maybe so, maybe not
rape happens all the time, all over the place, these cases only get into the news because of who it is doing the raping...... maybe some footballers think that they can take what they want, whose knows?
without actually being there i guess we will never know the validity of the claims

but if the claim is true, then i feel incredibly sorry for the girl, being violated in that way must be just awful

yes what you say is very true but you can't help thinking are they doing it for the money
I too feel sorry for the poor girl if it is true, my best friend was molested by a man when we were 16 i was there when it happened , it was daylight and they guy walks past and touched her in certain places i won't go into too many details, she was devistated and so was i i felt guilty because i was there and i could'nt do anything to help her , i think she kind of blamed me in a way because we have not spoke since

[sir_drinks_alot]

at this rate there be no footballers lift to Actually play the game

[Bex]

Originally Posted by smegs

yes what you say is very true but you can't help thinking are they doing it for the money
I too feel sorry for the poor girl if it is true, my best friend was molested by a man when we were 16 i was there when it happened , it was daylight and they guy walks past and touched her in certain places i won't go into too many details, she was devistated and so was i i felt guilty because i was there and i could'nt do anything to help her , i think she kind of blamed me in a way because we have not spoke since

as i said smegs it could be possible that they are doing it for the money, and if that's the case then they need help anyway.... and if it is the case then it makes the case for women who are truly raped even harder...... it also depends (i guess) if the girls in question actually sell their story..... if they did then it would maybe be a case that it was done for the money....... either way rape is not a nice issue (as you have showed with your story)

[CaKe]

Being a QPR fan (yes, yes, no comments needed :pp ) I was pretty shocked to hear this, he's a decent young player & we need him...

It's a tough one - on one hand it's easy to jump to the conclusion that the girl is just in it for the money, but on the other hand it's hard to see his innocence given that they must have enough evidence to charge & remand him in custody.

I hope for his, and the girls sake, that he & the other 3 charged with rape are completely innocent, as bexy said, it makes it harder for other women who have been raped to make people believe them

If he is guilty, my thoughts go out to that poor girl

[kronas]

i dont think you can shrug off a charge like this, all evidence must be presented before we can make a judgement, its too early to say hes inoccent or guilty.........

[Stu038]

Originally Posted by kronas

i dont think you can shrug off a charge like this, all evidence must be presented before we can make a judgement, its too early to say hes inoccent or guilty.........

Innocent or guilty won't stop the press (and not just the tabloids) crucifying the poor bleeder just like they did to our lads a few weeks ago

[CaKe]

Well, it's hard to defend the lad when he's been refused bail at the Old Bailey

Still, I hope for everyone's sake that this incident didn't take place - news reports have suggested that up to 10 people were involved in the rape, not just the 4 charged

[Russ]

Originally Posted by CaKe

It's a tough one - on one hand it's easy to jump to the conclusion that the girl is just in it for the money, but on the other hand it's hard to see his innocence given that they must have enough evidence to charge & remand him in custody.

You really think that?

[CaKe]

I really think what? I rarely think at all :P

I do think that there's a public tendency to believe people are guilty until proven innocent in cases like these, which is wrong. There's too many "footballer" rape cases around these days - now either the footballers either think they can have what they want, and take it, or girls think it's an easy way to make money.

Being refused bail by a judge at the Old Bailey has made a lot of people realise that this is more serious than we all thought. I'm trying to not judge and jump to any conclusions at all - I can see both sides, and the possibilities. I don't know enough details to make an assumption either way. 15 year old girls are in bars, pubs & clubs all the time. 15 year old girls lie about their age. 4 grown men should know better than to get themselves into a situation with a girl on her own. Forbes shouldn't have been out the night before a game.

AFAIK, this girl hasn't gone to the papers. Maybe that's a telling sign...I just don't know. I can't judge her, and I can't judge him - I'm not on a jury and it's not my place to judge.

I am trying to reserve judgement until he's found guilty/not guilty, and yes, I can honestly see both sides & don't know what to believe.