[merged] Price increase

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

why only price rise on the top 2 tiers, ntl have 3 tiers all with the same cap and only the top 2 get a price rise, not sure what logic there is in that.

talking about complicated phone bills, how much is it for an itemised phone bill on bt? and on ntl?

The lower tier had a price rise last year of £3 which was partially offset by increasing the speed from 128k to 150k. The middle tier never had a price increase when they raised that yo 600k from 512k.

What I miss about BT is the online fully itemised bill which you can sort in many different ways. Won't be missing it for long though as I will be back with them soon when my incentive to stay with NTL expires in May. The newly announced pricing strucure for BT is even more of an incentive to go back to them. It will mean a lot of re-writing of adverts by BTs competitors who compare their prices aganst BTs standard rates.

[br3ach]

Price goes up - My service level goes down, simple as that...

I dont really use the 1meg anyway, so 600k wouldn't be a problem...

[themelon]

BTs price rises are a disgrace and a shot in the foot for Indirect or CPS Services. A minimum £10.50 line rental and stealth increases in:

BT Call Minder (Voicemail)
Current: £6/quarter
Will cost £7.50/quarter from May 1st

BT Answer 1571 - Personal Greeting
£3.00/quarter
Will cost £4.50/quarter from May 1st

From 1st August 2004, BT are introducing a "Charge Per Activation" if you use 1471 and then press "3" to automatically dial the last number called. -

Cost? 6p per go.

BT increases directory inquiries charges.

Calls to BT's 118 500 service will now have a 40p set up charge against 25p before - although the price per minute rate halves to 15p.

BT previously claimed their average call duration was only 28 seconds. Based on this, users will now pay around 47p a call under the new tariff instead of 40p as before.

From 1st August 2004, the cost of using ringback (press 5 on engaged tone) is going up from 10p to 15p.

Calls to Timeline (Speaking Clock, 123 ) are increasing from 10p to 20p per call.

I look forward to the opening of BT local loops so other providers can have value for money line rental.

Comapanies such as ntl can say simply....we have cheaper line rental in their new adverts, a bonus for those who use Indirect companies such as onetel, or low usage customer who mainly only use the phone for incoming calls. BT had 9 million customers on the Standard Plan, so that £9 million extra each month in the hands of the monopoly.

Ntl seriously need to look at scrapping the connection charge then they would be back in a strong position.

[ian@huth]

themelon, could you post a link to where you got these new prices from, please.

As far as I can see, BT are reducing prices to the majority of their customers. I would be worried if I was NTL as it is difficult to find any calling pattern that will be cheaper with them. They will also have to do a lot of rewriting of adverts where they compare NTL prices with BTs.

I wondered how long it would take BT to do this in view of all the adverts from their competitors whic compared the competitors rates with BT standard rates.

[etccarmageddon]

Originally Posted by ianathuth

themelon, could you post a link to where you got these new prices from, please.

As far as I can see, BT are reducing prices to the majority of their customers. I would be worried if I was NTL as it is difficult to find any calling pattern that will be cheaper with them. They will also have to do a lot of rewriting of adverts where they compare NTL prices with BTs.

I wondered how long it would take BT to do this in view of all the adverts from their competitors whic compared the competitors rates with BT standard rates.

dont believe what the BT marketing people say - BT are INCREASING the line rental price by £1 per month for all customers who arent on 'together' by putting them on this package.

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

dont believe what the BT marketing people say - BT are INCREASING the line rental price by £1 per month for all customers who arent on 'together' by putting them on this package.

I appreciate this and it will mean a £1 increase to all who have a BT line but use other providers for their calls. The new prices are a decrease for all that are on BT Together. Maybe Ofcom will step in and insist that BT quote a line rental only price with call charge plans being extra on top of this.

There are millions of BT customers that are still on the standard tariff because they couldn't be bothered to change. My mother is one of them and I have shown her on numerous occasions that she could have a much cheaper bill by changing but she is obstinate and stuck in her ways.

[bob_builder]

Originally Posted by ianathuth

I appreciate this and it will mean a £1 increase to all who have a BT line but use other providers for their calls. The new prices are a decrease for all that are on BT Together. Maybe Ofcom will step in and insist that BT quote a line rental only price with call charge plans being extra on top of this.

There are millions of BT customers that are still on the standard tariff because they couldn't be bothered to change. My mother is one of them and I have shown her on numerous occasions that she could have a much cheaper bill by changing but she is obstinate and stuck in her ways.

Indeed, my parents are the same. They will be better off with the new tariff even though they are paying £1 a month extra for the line rental because their call costs will now be a lot lower.

I would be very tempted to move to BT from NTL (if I was allowed to have BT installed). I hope, however, NTL respond with a "NTL Together" tariff.

[N00N00]

these are the price rises posted on digitalspy - I don't know how true they are (in fact i don't even know what half of them mean)


>Phone and Surf is going up by £2-49.
>Call Barring, Call Divert, Call Waiting, Caller Display, Reminder call, Voicemail plus and 3 way calling are ALL going up by 50p.
>1mb BB is going up to £37-99
>UnLtd Dial up is going up £2-49
>Pay As You Go is going to the 321price structure
>TV is going up by 50p, £1 or £2 depending which package you got.
>Mobile prices are reduced by fractions of a penny
>Games console BB is down by £3



Presumably people can cancel their contracts early if they have to suffer a price rise?

[Graham F]

you have 30 days once you have been informed OFFICALLY of them yes

[Florence]

Well if 1mb goes up I am down to 600K and will hope that the powerline BB is launched....

Originally Posted by Scooby

you have 30 days once you have been informed OFFICALLY of them yes

I have only just had the email for my payment for the 1mb it goes out of my account on the 8th. If they don't Officially notify me then they shouldn't expect me to give them 30 days notice of dropping down.

[etccarmageddon]

if the price of 1mb broadband does go up then this is complete madness as it's an incentive to downgrade to 600 and spend less with NTL.

they should be dropping the price to encourage take up not increasing it.

[asdf]

I wish powerline was being launched, but in a way I'm very wary of it. I'm not sure it's been completely researched yet and I'm sure there were some very bad trials in America which is why they aren't using it.

[Hell's Child]

**hides away so nobody catches him**

1MB is going up to £37.99. 600k is staying the same as is 150k.


This will be announced to customers 7th April.

You heard it here 1st.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.



I will add the other prices are correct. As for termination of contract, it states you have the right to cancel without penalty if the price increase is 19% or over (I think this is the right figure).

[N00N00]

looks like the info on the digitaspy forums was correct afterall. See my post above for all the price rises.

[Richard M]

Originally Posted by Hell's Child

**hides away so nobody catches him**

1MB is going up to £37.99. 600k is staying the same as is 150k.


This will be announced to customers 7th April.

You heard it here 1st.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.



I will add the other prices are correct. As for termination of contract, it states you have the right to cancel without penalty if the price increase is 19% or over (I think this is the right figure).

I really hope this isn't true.