irresponsibility

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by towny

None of which happens in any house I have ever been to.

My Mother has rheumatoid arthritis as a result she takes daily cocktails of tablets, so our medicine cabinet was in the kitchen and always full of an assortment of drugs, remedies, vitamin tablets etc.
I grew up knowing the difference between the hard to open prescription medicine and the colourful haliborange vitamin tablets.

People also smoked in front of me and I never have. I think along as you make it clear that children are not to do certain things they usually don't.

These drugs in particular had no characteristics that a child is capable of recognising, perhaps the parents hid them with the general foods as an attempt to trick any police searches. Obviously this was very irresponsible.

[kronas]

Originally Posted by gary_580

Caffeine is a drug. Do you drink tea or coffee and eat chocolate?

lets not get petty, chocolate is known to have health benefits, caffeine keeps you awake.............

i dont drink tea or coffee, and i rarely have chocolate but it (chocolate) does not change your mental state does it ?

Originally Posted by orangebird

You obviously have never known anyone with dibilatating, crippling diseases such as MS then.... You'd have a different view if you did.

i do know, i know its not easy to handle a situation with having a disease like that, bu cannabis and marijuana are drugs that affect

this link shows the dangers of cannabis

http://www.reachout.com.au/default.asp?ti=70

It has been shown that cannabis use over the longer term can cause problems with memory, attention and processing of complex information. This may affect everyday life when you are learning something new or doing something difficult.

[kronas]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I'm afraid that making a drug legal or illegal doesn't make it any better or worse for you.

true it doesent, but then again you need sense not to take them!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Pierre

Just because some drugs are socially acceptable and some aren't doesn't mean that being exposed to them at young age is ok or not.

no drug should be socially acceptable, not with me, why do you think the problems of abuse and drug related issues occur because people are too slack at keeping away from them and cave in to a situation where someone offers and they accept.

Originally Posted by Pierre

How many of us were given shandy to drink by our parents!!! but no-one called them bad parents.

well IMO they are, socialising and taking drugs two very seperate things, you dont need to in induce alcohol to a young person or anyone because they 'want' it you need to put your foot down.

Originally Posted by Pierre

How many of us (I did) tried cigarettes at a young age because they were easy to get hold of.

ill hold my hands up and admit when i was younger i did try one, but i was not aware of what it was, and ended up coughing and throwing it away........

but that was my own doing.........

Originally Posted by Pierre

As long as ALL drugs are kept out of the way of children then I don't think there is a problem. I am talking about "recreational drugs". Heroin/Crack is a different kettle of worms IMO.

i refuse to accept any drug such as cannabis cocaine etc to be legalised for medicinal purposes........

Originally Posted by kronas

i refuse to accept any drug such as cannabis cocaine etc to be legalised for medicinal purposes........

Err, I suggest you do a little research into the drugs that are *already* used for medicinal purposes!

For example:

Morphine is an opiate (derived from the same source as heroin)

http://www.bartleby.com/59/22/morphine.html

Novacaine is chemically very similar to cocaine (but less toxic)

http://www.fas.org/news/reference/probert/E2.HTM

[Bifta]

I believe they also use MDMA and various amphetamines/barbiturates for medicinal reasons too.

[Pierre]

MDMA was/is used for the treatmant of depression. As it increases the levels of seratonin in the brain - The feel good chemical as used in prozac.

LSD was actually used in the earlier part of the last century as a potential cure for alcoholism

[kronas]

Originally Posted by Graham

Err, I suggest you do a little research into the drugs that are *already* used for medicinal purposes!

For example:

Morphine is an opiate (derived from the same source as heroin)

http://www.bartleby.com/59/22/morphine.html

Novacaine is chemically very similar to cocaine (but less toxic)

http://www.fas.org/news/reference/probert/E2.HTM

that i didnt know, i do know what opium is but not that morphine was derived from it.

i dont take either lol

Originally Posted by luftys

I blame the Teachers

[Bifta]

Originally Posted by Bifta

I believe they also use MDMA and various amphetamines/barbiturates for medicinal reasons too.

According to kron**** this was an obvious answer, clearly it wasn't to him as he still managed to show a complete lack of knowledge of the subject at hand.

MOD EDIT: Removed ****! from above

[kronas]

Originally Posted by Bifta

According to kron**** this was an obvious answer, clearly it wasn't to him as he still managed to show a complete lack of knowledge of the subject at hand.

it is if you do research in to medicine which affects the brains seratonin, ofcourse building knowledge is apart of a suitable discussion instead of backbiting ?

Hmmm! Can we keep the discussion on civilised lines please?Or the thread may be closed.

Originally Posted by Graham

Err, I suggest you do a little research into the drugs that are *already* used for medicinal purposes!

For example:

Morphine is an opiate (derived from the same source as heroin)

http://www.bartleby.com/59/22/morphine.html

Novacaine is chemically very similar to cocaine (but less toxic)

http://www.fas.org/news/reference/probert/E2.HTM

Less toxic is the key here. You take a dangerous, impure drug and you do research to discover what parts of it are useful and what parts of it are not. Then you produce a refined version and, critically, you administer it under proper medical supervision. For example, research that is now going on with cannabis is attempting to isolate those parts of the overall product that have potential medical benefit from those that might cause you psychological damage.

This is all a world away from suggesting it is a good idea to allow people to administer themselves raw drugs for 'medicinal purposes'. Morphine is not heroin; novocaine is not cocaine.

Originally Posted by kronas

i dont drink tea or coffee, and i rarely have chocolate but it (chocolate) does not change your mental state does it ?

The jury is still out on that one, but there is evidence to suggest that having chocolate has the same neurochemical effect as smoking a spliff, albeit to a much lesser degree.

http://sulcus.berkeley.edu/mcb/165_0...ipts/_303.html

Originally Posted by dr wadd

The jury is still out on that one, but there is evidence to suggest that having chocolate has the same neurochemical effect as smoking a spliff, albeit to a much lesser degree.

http://sulcus.berkeley.edu/mcb/165_0...ipts/_303.html

Ohh so all those hangovers I get when I'm not drinking maybe chocolate related.Interesting

[kronas]

Originally Posted by dr wadd

The jury is still out on that one, but there is evidence to suggest that having chocolate has the same neurochemical effect as smoking a spliff, albeit to a much lesser degree.

http://sulcus.berkeley.edu/mcb/165_0...ipts/_303.html

i dont believe that, although i think chocolate can affect your body by the sugar it contains, if it did have addictive properties which affect your senses and ruin you internally it would affect many more people........