ID cards for uk citizens over 16
06-07-2003, 23:33
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Originally posted by Theodoric
Why should they charge us anything? Unlike a driving license or a passport, it's not something that is of particular use to us or something that we're clamouring for. If the government want us to have one, let them pay for it.
OK, I know it's our taxes that pay for it at the end of the day, but it's the sheer arrogance of the government that gets my goat; "Listen, peasant, we know what's best for you! Oh, and that's £40 you owe us."
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Good point...
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06-07-2003, 23:34
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Originally posted by Theodoric
Why should they charge us anything? Unlike a driving license or a passport, it's not something that is of particular use to us or something that we're clamouring for. If the government want us to have one, let them pay for it.
OK, I know it's our taxes that pay for it at the end of the day, but it's the sheer arrogance of the government that gets my goat; "Listen, peasant, we know what's best for you! Oh, and that's £40 you owe us."
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in esscence you have a point no doubt they will put the terrorist spin on it to scare people in to it 
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06-07-2003, 23:53
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just my 2p worth
why can't you obtain this id card as your passport runs out that way no mad rush and no boo boo's dropped
and the price for this magnifico card £10 Top's after all it is another people tax well thats how i see it
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06-07-2003, 23:55
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I think that it is a good idea to have a id card, it should have as much info on it as possible....make life easier. I don't agree with having to pay for it directly. They want us to have one, they pay for it.
btw....the cost of the card is approx £33. It will cost us £39 because we will be subsidising the young/old/unemployed who will only pay £5
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07-07-2003, 00:00
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But have those in power made allowances for people who's beliefs would dictate that they shouldn't take the mark...erm, I mean the ID card?
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07-07-2003, 00:06
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Originally posted by Russ D
But have those in power made allowances for people who's beliefs would dictate that they shouldn't take the mark...erm, I mean the ID card?
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Explain please?
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07-07-2003, 00:17
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Yes we should all have them and they should be compulsary to have on you when you are out. The cost should be borne by everyone individually and could be phased in over a period of years to allow people on low incomes to contribute towards the cost of them overtime. Perhaps £1 a week or something taken out of their banks or even off their benefits.
If you try to argue that it shouldn't cost us anything then you are naive. Its going to cost us anyway whether or not we pay for it out of our own money or not. At least my way people across the board pay for it, not some scheme where only those of us who are willing to pay our own way in this word pay for it AND subsidise others aswell.
With regards to those with religious beliefs, rubbish. They live in Britain and enjoy the benefits that brings us so they abide by the law. One rule for everyone. If there was less PC gone mad dicking around with minorities this country would be a better place.
Yes to ID cards, yes to us paying for them, and yes to us carrying them at all times.
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07-07-2003, 00:17
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Revelations states that we shall all be required to take some kind of identification 'mark', better known as the 'mark of the beast'. Let's just say that acceptance of this 'mark' would be bad news for all who willingly took it.
Although it is stated that it is to be taken in the right hand or the forehead, this IMO would just be the tip of the iceberg.
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With regards to those with religious beliefs, rubbish. They live in Britain and enjoy the benefits that brings us so they abide by the law.
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So how does that apply to me then?
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07-07-2003, 00:19
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Its got nothing to do with bloody religion. The sooner people stop trying to condition the modern world with beliefs written by god knows who millenia ago the better.
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07-07-2003, 00:21
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Originally posted by Russ D
So how does that apply to me then?
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What has religeous beliefs got to do with carrying around cards which confirm your identity ?
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07-07-2003, 00:22
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Originally posted by Nor
Its got nothing to do with bloody religion. The sooner people stop trying to condition the modern world with beliefs written by god knows who millenia ago the better.
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Nothing to do with religion. When such an identification device is predicted in the Bible.
So by your logic I'm not to follow my beliefs? Wow, someone else imposing their beliefs on me 
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07-07-2003, 00:24
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Russ you really need to forget about what it says in the bible sometimes and think things out for yourself.
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07-07-2003, 00:24
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Originally posted by Russ D
Revelations states that we shall all be required to take some kind of identification 'mark', better known as the 'mark of the beast'. Let's just say that acceptance of this 'mark' would be bad news for all who willingly took it.
Although it is stated that it is to be taken in the right hand or the forehead, this IMO would just be the tip of the iceberg.
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I'm not that scared of this beasty of yours, but I do have my doubts over what info should go onto a card like this. Not that I have anything to worry about, or don't want to carry identification. I usually have my passport on me.
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07-07-2003, 00:25
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Originally posted by Nor
Russ you really need to forget about what it says in the bible sometimes and think things out for yourself.
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I'm sure you're not deliberately trying to be so insulting....
How about if I said to you that you really need to start beliving what the Bible says?
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07-07-2003, 00:25
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Then that would be silly Russ.
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