ID cards for uk citizens over 16

[kronas]

a leaked letter to other ministers written by david blunkett shows his strong support for a ID card to be compulsery for uk citizens

the card would possibly have fingerprints or iris prints on the card or something facial related to the cardholder

although you would not have to carry the card at all times if police officers request for you to do so you must provide the card within a few days of being asked to the card itself will cost around £40

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3048386.stm

[Tricky]

Personnally I'd back it, we have driving licences, passports and credit cards etc. so they already know lots about you. Just think you'd be able to open a video shop account without having to bring 10 forms of ID just to prove who you are.

If I had my way everyone would be planted with a chip at birth and then could be tracked. Mmm this could be a film, perhaps I'd call it demolition man?

[danielf]

But why would I need one if I have a passport?

[kronas]

Originally posted by Tricky

If I had my way everyone would be planted with a chip at birth and then could be tracked. Mmm this could be a film, perhaps I'd call it demolition man?

well lets hope you dont get in to power then those systems can easily be abused in theory im in support of the proposal for ID cards but as the technology gets ever more complex so do the identity thieves...............

[Dave Stones]

personally i couldnt care less. itd be interesting to see how the identity thieves would steal our iris scans or colonic maps or fingerprints or whatever though...

[tomw]

I wold have no prop with ID cards but there is also no reason the passports couldnt be built intothe cards with you NI number and even Drivers licence with a data base that you could update online

The only thing i dont understand about passports is kids ones my kids have photos on them when they were 3 mths & 2 they are now 2 & 4 and take no resembelence to there photos
At least mine still looks familular just the mullet thats gone

[Theodoric]

I'd have thought that making most of us pay £40 for the card would be a bit of a political shooting yourself in the foot action. I can see it really riling a lot of people (OK, for 'a lot of people' read 'me' ). In some ways it's like the way that the Chinese execute people by shooting them, then make the relatives pay for the ammunition!

[kronas]

i would think the money should be going to a worthy cause back in to public services or something related to everyone

[danielf]

Originally posted by kronas
i would think the money should be going to a worthy cause back in to public services or something related to everyone

I think the money should go towards the card. Why should they charge anymore than the thing costs?

Regarding passports, I was just thinking that you probably don't want fingerprints etc. on that. I can just see US immigration copying the info into their records upon entry, just in case....

[kronas]

Originally posted by danielf
I think the money should go towards the card. Why should they charge anymore than the thing costs?

i dont quite understand you there i was talking about if it was implimented and we were paying £40 for it i was thinking about where the money should go

[danielf]

Originally posted by kronas
i dont quite understand you there i was talking about if it was implimented and we were paying £40 for it i was thinking about where the money should go

Well, the implementation and making of the cards would cost money. I would think the 40 quid would be for that. If the actual cost of the card was less than 40 quid, I'd be right pi**ed, because it meant I was being overcharged for a card I never asked for.

[kronas]

Originally posted by danielf
Well, the implementation and making of the cards would cost money. I would think the 40 quid would be for that. If the actual cost of the card was less than 40 quid, I'd be right pi**ed, because it meant I was being overcharged for a card I never asked for.

of course it wont be costing the full £40 hence why i mentioned the money generated from it should go back to the public in someway or is it the goverments idea to fill a gaping hole in some of there finances

[vaiolator]

Just my initial thoughts;
I wouldn't pay for something I don't want.
What would be the point if you don't have to carry the compulsory card? If I was stopped without a card and given a producer as with a driving licence, what would prevent me from giving a false name and address? Afterall, I would have no ID to show anything different.
Perhaps if as much time and effort was put into tackling the persistant criminals, we wouldn't need cards anyway.

[Theodoric]

Originally posted by danielf
[B]I think the money should go towards the card. Why should they charge anymore than the thing costs?

Why should they charge us anything? Unlike a driving license or a passport, it's not something that is of particular use to us or something that we're clamouring for. If the government want us to have one, let them pay for it.

OK, I know it's our taxes that pay for it at the end of the day, but it's the sheer arrogance of the government that gets my goat; "Listen, peasant, we know what's best for you! Oh, and that's £40 you owe us."

[danielf]

Originally posted by kronas
of course it wont be costing the full £40 hence why i mentioned the money generated from it should go back to the public in someway or is it the goverments idea to fill a gaping hole in some of there finances

If they are going to force this card on you, it should not cost more than needed to run the scheme. IMO anyway...