pornography corrupts the mind........

[kronas]

porn directer james dorigio has teamed up with evangelists to promote the message to parents that sex stunts growth to put kids off, and to educate people about keeping there 'filth' away out of the reach of children.

source: usatoday

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...director_x.htm

how prudish can you get, if you are old enough, you should have precautionary sexual activity, by this i mean the allowence to jerk off on porn...........prudes..... :pp

my view is if people produce it through free choice and people us it through free choice and its not pressured onto those who dont want it or shouldnt have it then whats the big issue.

Kids it is not for, so not sure what point your trying to make Kronas

[Jon M]

porn and sex addiction are very real.. and can damage relationships/marriages.. i don't know many guys (including me) who haven't had to battle with it to a greater or lesser extent.

i'm no prude in the sense that.. i'm open about sex as a subject for discussion and education.. but on a moral level there is a huge amount that worries me about how our society treats this issue especially with children

I suppose lots of us have done it - found their parents stash of pron, I mean, I did, when publicly available pron was American mags with 'racy' stories & line drawings - and Health & efficiency'

But the stuff available now is beyond that and is definitely not for kids - if a guy making pron is prepared to speak out to make that statement, then that can only be a good thing.

- @Kronas, I'm minded of a line in 'Buffy', where Zander is asked something along the lines of 'did that make you feel horny', he answered something like 'I'm 17 - looking at lino, makes me feel horny'. So, while not denying our youth a 'release', they can start with 'raunchy' shots of their favourite film/pop/tv stars.

[bopdude]

Pornography \ sex has been around for centurys, it is only due to "recent" technology thatit is freely available to the wholesale public, it is this, and not the subject itself that is having an abject \ adverse reaction on the populus IMHO that is. If the Eygptians \ Romans could have it and still maintain two of historys most advanced civilisations then you have to look at OUR lifestyle to account for the blame

Originally Posted by bopdude

Pornography \ sex has been around for centurys, it is only due to "recent" technology thatit is freely available to the wholesale public, it is this, and not the subject itself that is having an abject \ adverse reaction on the populus IMHO that is. If the Eygptians \ Romans could have it and still maintain two of historys most advanced civilisations then you have to look at OUR lifestyle to account for the blame

good point - you are just an philisophical old bopdude

- India too with some of the temple carvings

[Russ]

Originally Posted by bopdude

If the Eygptians \ Romans could have it and still maintain two of historys most advanced civilisations then you have to look at OUR lifestyle to account for the blame

Yes, our "I want it right now and don't care what I have to do to get it" lifestyle.

[bopdude]

Originally Posted by homealone

good point - you are just an philisophical old bopdude

- India too with some of the temple carvings

Cheers mate, common sense prevails???

Originally Posted by Russ D

Yes, our "I want it right now and don't care what I have to do to get it" lifestyle.

that is a very bitter comment, Russ, unfortunately I think there is some truth in it.

Originally Posted by s1lv3r

porn and sex addiction are very real.. and can damage relationships/marriages..

So can alcohol addiction, drug addiction, nicotine addiction and any other addiction, however just because you drink doesn't mean you'll become addicted to alcohol and just because you like porn doesn't mean you'll become addicted to that either.

i don't know many guys (including me) who haven't had to battle with it to a greater or lesser extent.

I have never had to "battle with it", nor do I think I ever will have, yet surely I'm the one who is *most* likely to be "corrupted" by it!!!

i'm no prude in the sense that.. i'm open about sex as a subject for discussion and education.. but on a moral level there is a huge amount that worries me about how our society treats this issue especially with children

I agree, that worries me too, but from a totally different point of view.

Our society is becoming more and more inclined to the attitude that children are like fine china, to be wrapped in cotton wool, to be taken great care of, to not be let out of our sight or arms' reach lest they become "damaged" by that big *nasty* world that's out there...

However this is a totally *artificial* attitude. For much of mankind's existance, and, indeed, in much of the world today, children live and sleep in the same room as their parents, and that means they're there when sex happens.

They're also there when their siblings are born, they're there when people die, yet, amazingly, they manage to survive these "traumas" that would have any self-respecting western child in therapy!

This idea that, somehow, children need to be "protected" from sex is ludicrous, but we have allowed ourselves to be so scared by our own "moral attitudes" that we can't even think about them in a rational way any more.

Originally Posted by homealone

I suppose lots of us have done it - found their parents stash of pron, I mean, I did

And so did I, when I was about 11 and looking for my Xmas presents in dad's wardrobe. Somehow I survived...!

But the stuff available now is beyond that and is definitely not for kids - if a guy making pron is prepared to speak out to make that statement, then that can only be a good thing.

The thing is, this attitude that "it's not for kids" is often a sign of embarassment on the part of *adults*.

If it's *really* "not for kids" (in the literal, rather than figurative sense) then kids simply won't be *interested* in it, just as I found some adult (as in "grown up" ie not sexually explicit) books in the book case that I didn't have any interest in reading.

What "not for kids" has come to mean, however, is that "this is stuff that parents would be embarassed to try to explain to their children", but that's a failing on the part of the parents IMO.

[kronas]

well im quite suprised a number of people actually dont mind that children can view pornography, sex is quite natural, and i do agree with grahams comments about 'children being wrapped up in cotton wool'

[Stuartbe]

I see what graham is saying and I agree to some extent....

Half the problem with life ATM is that we do wrap our kids in cotton wool.. We all learn by our mistakes and we will allways make mistakes... Thats life !!!

The important thing is to learn by the mistakes and not to do it again !!!

We have all been told by our parents " dont do this & dont do that but do we realy listen ? NO "

[kronas]

Originally Posted by stuartbe

We have all been told by our parents " dont do this & dont do that but do we realy listen ? NO "

yes, thats the typical rebellious time of our lives where we 'think' we know whats best, i believe a degree of freedom and self thought doesent harm anyone, i guess it would depend on you...............or your prudish parents :pp

Sex in the home! Depends just what that is.As Graham says many of the worlds population of children are used to the idea of sex between adults(though some are more than familiar of sex between adults and children sadly)and live daily with the idea that sex is part of life.Even your teenagers will be aware that it must have taken place at one point for them to be around for you as a parent to embarrass with the icky idea that their parents may STILL be having sex. The natural sexual act between adults who actually love one another is hardly something children need protecting from.

What concerns me is the sex education children get.Most parents won't /don't talk about issues that they SHOULD address because there are issues that are not taught in school.Give a child a good sex education backed up by sensible intervention from parents and I can't see anyone being damaged by seeing anyone having sex.I've seen no discussion about porn and the porn industry taking place in school and I very much doubt that it is discussed in many homes.

I'm MORE concerned by children/teenagers watching/seeing porn in a vacuum without anyone to point out the dangers of say seeing a man or a woman purely as a sexual object rather than a living breathing human being.There is the issue of violence and sex that I think needs to be handled and discussed with teenagers.Sexuality is another issue that hardly ever gets a reasoned discussion with teenagers.

Incog.