Q.? Modding the box! The pros & cons, your opinions would be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Tezcatlipoca

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and those ppl who said they wanted bragging rights with their faster xbox, sure your clock speed may be faster - no games take advantage of it mind and using non-standard hardware also cause sever instability in your machine

True. I don't really see the point in it myself.

no one said they wanted bragging rites? i said people do use it as a reason though.

personally if xboxes could not be chiped/upgraded i wouldnt even think of getting one, i have more than enough pcs in my place. my main reason for getting an xbox would be...

me and myt flatmate have over 250 dvds, many of these i ahve recently started ripping to disk as divx (for home use only) as we have pcs in most of the rooms in the house but many without dvd drives. these can then be run in any room of the house with no problems. recently though i moved the pc from the living room back up to my bedroom and now i need either another pc or an chiped box for the living room.

that is my reason.

as for it being illegal...people will still do it whether its legal or not, everyone has their own reasons, some valid many not. a few years back i used to make easy cash chipping PS and PS2s for people, yet i have never owned my own games console ( unless you count a gameboy and a gamegear) purely because of my obsession with pcs, and the fact that i cant play a 1st person shooter on a joy pad

[kRAyZZed]

you know maybe we should settle this little debate in the time honoured male way.... LETS FIGHT!!!!


:P RS3 Online anyone???

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Originally Posted by kRAyZZed

you know maybe we should settle this little debate in the time honoured male way.... LETS FIGHT!!!!


:P RS3 Online anyone???

rs3?

[Richard M]

Raindow Six 3, the PC equivalent is Raven Shield.

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Originally Posted by Richard M

Raindow Six 3, the PC equivalent is Raven Shield.

i prefer battle field 1942 DC mod

[zoombini]

There is also a rumour that MS are scanning hard drives to check that there is nothing on them that could only get there via a mod chip.
If thats true, then its an obvious breach of privacy.

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Originally Posted by zoombini

There is also a rumour that MS are scanning hard drives to check that there is nothing on them that could only get there via a mod chip.
If thats true, then its an obvious breach of privacy.

so basicly if you dont use live you dont have much to worry about....

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Avatar

so basicly if you dont use live you dont have much to worry about....

Pretty much.

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Originally Posted by zoombini

There is also a rumour that MS are scanning hard drives to check that there is nothing on them that could only get there via a mod chip.
If thats true, then its an obvious breach of privacy.

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thinking about it...there was an issue similar to this a while back in diablo2/blizzard, they where scanning for files on peoples pcs, and got arround it by adding simple but complicated small print to the terms and conditions which basicaly gave them permission to access system details, although they said all they where looking for was system specs and perfomance.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by zoombini

There is also a rumour that MS are scanning hard drives to check that there is nothing on them that could only get there via a mod chip.
If thats true, then its an obvious breach of privacy.

AFAIK, the scan is for HDD size, not content.

See earlier in this thread: http://forum.nthellworld.co.uk/showp...2&postcount=20

Although it has been confirmed that the code for the scan exists (& has done for a while now), I don't think it has yet been shown that M$ are actually doing this scan & banning people with non-standard HDD sizes. (Yet?).

Of course, if they wanted to, they could easily do an actual file scan of the HDD, to look for any non-standard stuff such as EvoX & so on.

The XBL T&Cs do say that you agree to only use XBL with an un-modded XBox (guess I've broken that then!), I don't know if they also allow M$ the right to scan your files though.

[Brainbug71]

Tez,

How long have you been using your modded box on live?

have you had any problems?

[Tezcatlipoca]

I got my modded box back in November last year.

I've not been on XBL much since Christmas, though, apart from playing a bit of CS last month, & downloading the KOTOR content last week. So I haven't been online enough to be able to tell if it is definitely still as safe as before! (although I definitely haven't been banned)

Although from reading the thread about the HDD check at XBoxScene (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.p...&f=53&t=183941), it seems there are a lot of people who have been online almost non-stop & *not* had any problems.

As the new scan is not yet confirmed (well, the ability for it apparently exists, it's just that no-one knows if M$ actually do it, & if they do do it, no one knows if they *do* ban people), it may be safer to hold-off on getting a modded XBox for the moment, in case there are suddenly loads of reports of people being banned due to the HDD check.

Then again, the check is apparently only for HDD size, not content.

So if you got your XBox modded, but kept the original hard drive, there presumably wouldn't be a problem? (which is why this check seems so stupid to me: why would M$ only check HDD size? What use is banning people with modded XBoxes that have >8 gig HDDs, when people with modded XBoxes with normal original 8gig HDDs can still go on XBL? Odd).

Originally Posted by zoombini

There is also a rumour that MS are scanning hard drives to check that there is nothing on them that could only get there via a mod chip.
If thats true, then its an obvious breach of privacy.

I'm not sure, but isnt there a clause in some equipment manufacturers T&C's that state you cannot modify or alter?

Surely if you then go ahead and do this then you are in breach of contract and wouldnt therefor be permitted to use the equipment?

Or am I talking ******** and that only refers to software?

[zoombini]

There is this section in the agreement you agree to when signing upto Xbox Live & its most definately to be so while its within its warranty.

However, for someone who does not use XBL then there is no problem, if you mod it (as is your right to do so as its now your property) then as long as you no longer expect any support from the manufacturer the rest is just a legal mishmash over copyright & fair play issues etc.

If you wish to use the box on XBL then thats where the main problems start appearing, what with MS not wanting any Xbox's on thier system that have been in any way modified or altered. They have made up the excuse that its because they want an even playing field & for us all to be equal, but we know what the real reason for this is.
(no copys & hacks).

Whatever MS do, eventually those clever Richards who design the chips will circumvent any checks, any scans will be intercepted & get Xbox std reports sent back etc. (hopefully).

[zoombini]

BTW, adding a modchip can be for reasons other than just using copied game DVD's.

It allows you to store your games on the HDD, access the box via your PC, install Linux etc, etc, etc.

So there are reasonably acceptable legal reasons for installing a modchip