Madrid Bomb Blast

Bifta · 11-03-2004, 14:17

There's probably another thread about this already, but I couldn't find it

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3500452.stm

Shocking

paulyoung666 · 11-03-2004, 14:46

well if there is i aint seen it , agree though , it is truly shocking

**Mick** · 11-03-2004, 16:28

182 Now feared dead, another terrorist attack it seems and again on the '11th' of the month.

Nugget · 11-03-2004, 16:31

I think that we can be safe in saying that Eta is responsible - what I don't understand is, if they want a separate Basque region, how they think that killing nearly 200 people will help their cause, as almost every government has a zero tolerance policy on terrorists.

A sad, shocking event

paulyoung666 · 11-03-2004, 16:41

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Originally Posted by Nugget

I think that we can be safe in saying that Eta is responsible - what I don't understand is, if they want a separate Basque region, how they think that killing nearly 200 people will help their cause, as almost every government has a zero tolerance policy on terrorists.

A sad, shocking event

beggars belief , mind you i am not so sure we can assume it is eta , from what i remember they normally own up to things like this , and this time they are denying it

Bifta · 11-03-2004, 16:46

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

beggars belief , mind you i am not so sure we can assume it is eta , from what i remember they normally own up to things like this , and this time they are denying it

A majority of terrorist groups will initially deny something that causes outrage and a huge number of fatalities, they normally end up admitting guilt at a later stage, the pIRA, UVF and UDA were much the same.

danielf · 11-03-2004, 16:53

From what I've heard, Spanish authorities are fairly confident it's ETA (judging by the type of explosives used). Batasuna (ETA's political arm), claim it's Muslims. It may well be ETA though.

Nugget · 11-03-2004, 16:56

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Originally Posted by danielf

From what I've heard, Spanish authorities are fairly confident it's ETA (judging by the type of explosives used). Batasuna (ETA's political arm), claim it's Muslims. It may well be ETA though.

I'd be surprised if Batasuna admitted it was Eta, because of the affiliation with them. I think that they are claiming it was Muslims because of the general assumption that, in any act of terrorism, Bin Laden is involved.

At the end of the day, I can't remember any terrorist attacks in Spains recent history, that weren't linked to Eta.

11-03-2004, 16:57

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Originally Posted by danielf

From what I've heard, Spanish authorities are fairly confident it's ETA (judging by the type of explosives used). Batasuna (ETA's political arm), claim it's Muslims. It may well be ETA though.

Before I had seen some analysis on News 24 this afternoon I was not convinced that this one was ETA.

One point they did mention on the news that I had not considered is that if this attack was by another group, then they are likely to use similar explosives to ETA as it will be easier to source them locally than attempt to transport them across national borders.

SMHarman · 11-03-2004, 17:01

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Originally Posted by Nugget

I'd be surprised if Batasuna admitted it was Eta, because of the affiliation with them. I think that they are claiming it was Muslims because of the general assumption that, in any act of terrorism, Bin Laden is involved.

At the end of the day, I can't remember any terrorist attacks in Spains recent history, that weren't linked to Eta.

Recent history - last time I was in madrid was over 10 years ago - backpacking - couldn't lock rucksacks up in most stations due to the ETA threats.

And everyone in Europe thought our IRA was bad. The Good Friday accord does seem to have stopped things blowing up at the mo.

danielf · 11-03-2004, 17:09

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Originally Posted by dr wadd

Before I had seen some analysis on News 24 this afternoon I was not convinced that this one was ETA.

One point they did mention on the news that I had not considered is that if this attack was by another group, then they are likely to use similar explosives to ETA as it will be easier to source them locally than attempt to transport them across national borders.

Very well possible, but Nugget's post makes sense as well. I only stated what I read on ceefax. Personally, I would not be surprised if it was ETA, but it may well be another organisation.

paulyoung666 · 11-03-2004, 17:54

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Originally Posted by Bifta

A majority of terrorist groups will initially deny something that causes outrage and a huge number of fatalities, they normally end up admitting guilt at a later stage, the pIRA, UVF and UDA were much the same.

very true , i just dont feel it is eta somehow , of course i may be proved wrong

Charlie_Bubble · 11-03-2004, 20:18

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

very true , i just dont feel it is eta somehow , of course i may be proved wrong

Agree totally with you. Doesn't seem like something they would do. ETA are fairly small time, bombs in tourist resorts to mainly disrupt, not take, life. Remember Spain was one of the few countries that went into Iraq with the UK and US in the recent war. Current news break on the BBC site is that 'arabic' tapes have been found with detonators in a stolen van. Now they could have been put there by ETA to deliberately throw people off their scent, but.....

Graham F · 11-03-2004, 20:26

Totally shocking events

Why oh why...

paulyoung666 · 11-03-2004, 20:32

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Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble

Agree totally with you. Doesn't seem like something they would do. ETA are fairly small time, bombs in tourist resorts to mainly disrupt, not take, life. Remember Spain was one of the few countries that went into Iraq with the UK and US in the recent war. Current news break on the BBC site is that 'arabic' tapes have been found with detonators in a stolen van. Now they could have been put there by ETA to deliberately throw people off their scent, but.....

yes , i get the feeling more is to come