a 'sign' or pure 'coincidence' - Page 2

Stuart · 05-07-2003, 17:24

I like the way they say in the article that the lightning electrified to congregation...

Xaccers · 05-07-2003, 17:25

go to your local comic shop and buy all the back copies of Preacher, that'll teach you what you need to know

(pretty sure it starts with a burnt down church too!)

Martin · 05-07-2003, 17:27

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Originally posted by scastle
Why not? We learn, and (hopefully) improve ourselves by questioning what we are told..

Hmmm we can question each other on what we think and how we interpret something, BUT unless the big man answers we won't know. Even if he sends us a sign like a bolt of lightening does it mean he is happy or mad?

Russ · 05-07-2003, 17:54

Towny - didn't God give limited power of weather to Satan? This could be one of his many attempts to mimick God and it influence us in to thinking/believing alternative theories.

El Diablo · 05-07-2003, 18:07

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Originally posted by Russ D
Towny - didn't God give limited power of weather to Satan? This could be one of his many attempts to mimick God and it influence us in to thinking/believing alternative theories.

What, like God doesn't exist?

Right... I'm off to do me rain dance chaps

Russ · 05-07-2003, 18:14

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Originally posted by El Diablo
What, like God doesn't exist?

Yes! But also ideas of "Well if God exists, why would he cause hurricanes etc"....

Dave Stones · 05-07-2003, 18:16

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Originally posted by Russ D
Yes! But also ideas of "Well if God exists, why would he cause hurricanes etc"....

ah the old "how can a power for good exist if there is so much bad in the world" thing

well i cant be bothered arguing/discussing

il leave that to the more philosophical people of the world :p

i dont try to understand the workings of the world and the mind and frankly i dont want to really. i like the air of mystery surrounding everything

Xaccers · 05-07-2003, 18:38

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Originally posted by El Diablo
Right... I'm off to do me rain dance chaps

Would that be the BBQ raindance, or the Wimbledon rain dance?

Tezcatlipoca · 05-07-2003, 18:48

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Originally posted by Xaccers
go to your local comic shop and buy all the back copies of Preacher, that'll teach you what you need to know

(pretty sure it starts with a burnt down church too!)

Brilliant comic.

Had some low points, but on the whole one of the best comic book series I've ever read. Garth Ennis is a genius.

Xaccers · 05-07-2003, 19:32

Talking of lightening strikes, this is why Prince Alberts are never a good idea!

Martin · 05-07-2003, 19:38

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Originally posted by Xaccers
Talking of lightening strikes, this is why Prince Alberts are never a good idea!

Blimey, lucky

I must direct someone else to look at this thread re: Prince Alberts.

Stuart · 05-07-2003, 20:15

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Originally posted by Xaccers
Talking of lightening strikes, this is why Prince Alberts are never a good idea!

Ouch...

**Chris** · 05-07-2003, 20:26

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Originally posted by Russ D
Towny - didn't God give limited power of weather to Satan? This could be one of his many attempts to mimick God and it influence us in to thinking/believing alternative theories.

The Bible calls Satan (amongst other things) 'Prince of the Powers of the Air'. While that's a reference predominantly to him being the head demon over all demons, it also points to the fact that the devil and his minions have been cast out of heaven and live invisibly on Earth, 'in the air'. They do have a degree of control over the elements, the same as they can gain control over people. The Bible (which is of course my source text for making all these statements!) contains examples of the devil or one of his minions both interfering with people ('demonic posession') and, arguably, interfering with the weather (the storm calmed by Jesus that threatened to sink the boat he and his disciples were in).

However, God himself is still ultimate ruler of the universe with the final word and the ultimate power to control. He is accredited both with bringing rain and holding back rain, causing whirlwinds and even once making the sun reverse in the sky, lengthening one particular day by several minutes.

The upshot - both God and the devil have power (although God has infinitely more). Either could have acted in this situation (although if it was the devil it could only be because God allowed it). Without being there, knowing the full facts and prayerfully considering them before God, it's not possible to conclude what happened.

Here endeth the sermon ...

Theodoric · 05-07-2003, 20:27

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Originally posted by Dave Stones
i would have thought setting to fire to one little church wouldve been a fairly minor sign.. if "god" really wanted our attention he'd do something much bigger like blow up antarctica or something?

or appear as a giant head in the sky and start talking

/visions of a giant head talking in the sky... also how stupid do the churchies have to be to not notice their church was on fire?!

Re the giant head talking in the sky. They had one in Ardoz; Sean Connery was the lead actor, was he not?

Theodoric · 05-07-2003, 20:30

It has suddenly struck me that Current Affairs is just the place for a thread on lightning bolts.

All right, I'll get me coat!