Gay channel

[zendawn]

Originally Posted by scastle

Nope, just being logical.

Just cuz its logical doesnt mean its right. Like i said before there are plenty of examples of discrimination where logical arguments have been used.

'Gays shouldnt be in the army, cuz it lowers moral'

Logical if you accept each premise, but not nesscary true to life.

[zendawn]

Originally Posted by orangebird

Abusive...

If it's not just about sex - what is it about then????

I don't know I'm not gay, but go to your local library and look for the gay and lesbian section, for there is one.

[Macca]

Originally Posted by zendawn

As for conspiracy theories, i'd appreciate it if you didnt hijack my point for your own reasons. My agenda is out their for anyone to read, not to paraphase wrongly. But your use of the word agenda shows your bias and your willingness to dismiss my points out of hand.

I was under the impression that it was ok to hijack things within this thread as you appear to have done so for your own means. If you are going to quote then please quote me correctly....I never said that you had an agenda, no requirement to as you have done so yourself. I have no bias and do not dismiss your points, I just believe that this thread was not started to go in the direction it has now followed.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by zendawn

Just cuz its logical doesnt mean its right. Like i said before there are plenty of examples of discrimination where logical arguments have been used.

'Gays shouldnt be in the army, cuz it lowers moral'

Logical if you accept each premise, but not nesscary true to life.

Actually, I have never believed that Gays should not be in the army, they can fight just as well as anyone else.

But, as far as I can see, my explanation is true to life. Most companies will do anything they can to increase income.

If you can produce proof that NTL is or has been homophobic, then, for whatever it's worth, I'll believe you, but until then, I'll stick with what I consider the logical explanation.

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by scastle

Actually, I have never believed that Gays should not be in the army, they can fight just as well as anyone else.

But, as far as I can see, my explanation is true to life. Most companies will do anything they can to increase income.

If you can produce proof that NTL is or has been homophobic, then, for whatever it's worth, I'll believe you, but until then, I'll stick with what I consider the logical explanation.

exactly , if ppl are that desperate to get this channel then why not get skydigi

[zendawn]

Originally Posted by Macca

I was under the impression that it was ok to hijack things within this thread as you appear to have done so for your own means. If you are going to quote then please quote me correctly....I never said that you had an agenda, no requirement to as you have done so yourself. I have no bias and do not dismiss your points, I just believe that this thread was not started to go in the direction it has now followed.

Where have I hijacked this post for 'my own means'?
I'm not gay, but yes I'd like a gay channel just as I'd like a whole array of minority channels.
The main argument for not having a gay channel on NTL seems to be economical, I'm just trying to show that this is a discriminatory factor as gays are in a minority that would find it dificult to raise the funds for such a channel.
But because gays are a diverse part of society, I'm sure there are plenty of rich gays who could afford to run a gay channel should they want to.

[Neil]

And people wonder why I was sceptical about letting a thread like this go on?

Enough is enough I think.

This thread has gone about as far off the original topic as it possible could, & has turned into not much more than a glorified slanging match.

Closed.

[Edit]-This is not the place to argue the toss about your personal opinions/differences, it is an ntl discussion forum.

If you want to argue the toss about homosexuality/anything else, please do it via PM/Email/Instant Messenger.

Better still-start up your own site, & host the 'discussions' on there.

Any further threads reigniting this topic, or moaning about the decision to close it will be removed.