Win 98 Ethernet problem

chambece · 10-03-2004, 11:32

Trying to set a win98 SE machine to access NTL via ethernet.

The ethernet adapter is in the system setting, hardware screen, no probs

In the networking screen I have

Client - Client for MS networks
Client - Microsoft Family Logon
Adapter - Dial Up Adapter
Adapter - Realtek RTL8139
Protocol - TCP/IP -> Dial up adapter
Protocol - TCP/IP -> Realtek RTL8139

However when I do winipcfg I only get PPP Adapter listed.

Any Ideas?

Stuartbe · 10-03-2004, 11:37

Change the midle drop down box on ipconfig to the realtek adaptor.

P.S. If you are using broadband you only need :-

Microsoft family logon
Adaptor - Realtek RTL8139
Protocol TCP/IP -> Realtek RTL8139

Remove the other entries as they are not needed.
Untick " dial up networking " from add/remove programs first.

HTH

br3ach · 10-03-2004, 11:39

you may need 98 disk for some system files for this

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remove everything but the adapters

click ok

itll say network not complete

say ok and reboot

then go back in there and add a client

client for microsoft networks only

itll re-add tcp/ip for all adapters

YOU DONT NEED TO ADD FAMILY LOGON

click ok

you'll need to reboot again

then try it and see if you have anything else apart from ppp adapter

chambece · 10-03-2004, 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuartbe

Change the midle drop down box on ipconfig to the realtek adaptor.

P.S. If you are using broadband you only need :-

Microsoft family logon
Adaptor - Realtek RTL8139
Protocol TCP/IP -> Realtek RTL8139

Remove the other entries as they are not needed.
Untick " dial up networking " from add/remove programs first.

HTH

That's the problem - on the winipconfig screen there's only the PPP listed - no realtek adapter

GazzaB · 10-03-2004, 11:41

Hi chambece looks like you need a comms refresh.
This can be done by running the original win 98 disk you got with the pc,
go into windows setup, and remove tick from comms and restart machine, then re-enter the above and put tick back into comms, this should work and reinstal necessary clean drivers. Hopefully winipcfg should show what you need, also removing and reinstalling the ethernet card from network in the control panel in windows may do the trick.

Hope this helps!

P.s Just remember to make sure you have the driver disk for the ethernet card incase windows needs it.

chambece · 10-03-2004, 11:52

Got it now guys - Thanks a lot!!!! Rep points comming all-round!!

Stuartbe · 10-03-2004, 11:54

I would get rid of dial up networking m8.... The less adators you have in the network panel the better !

br3ach · 10-03-2004, 11:57

Quote:

Thaks mate, did what you said and it worked fine!!

No probs, glad I could help

Stuartbe · 10-03-2004, 12:00

Trouble is - you are binding the adaptor to netbios. IMO its better to use MFL binding on 98 if you have to use one at all.

Or at the least - go into the tcp/ip settings and remove the tick's for the client and netbios !

chambece · 10-03-2004, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuartbe

Trouble is - you are binding the adaptor to netbios. IMO its better to use MFL binding on 98 if you have to use one at all.

Or at the least - go into the tcp/ip settings and remove the tick's for the client and netbios !

What does this do then? what is better? I now get a MS logon screen now, where I ddidn't previously - I know I can add mfl and get window to use that with no password, but what's the differemce - it's not gonna be networked as such, so no file sharing needed....

br3ach · 10-03-2004, 12:15

Just click cancel the once on the windows password thing, and it doesnt normally come back.

It is to do with networking and individual user profiles and desktops.

Like you said, you probably wont use this feature so just cancel it

Stuartbe · 10-03-2004, 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by chambece

What does this do then? what is better? I now get a MS logon screen now, where I ddidn't previously - I know I can add mfl and get window to use that with no password, but what's the differemce - it's not gonna be networked as such, so no file sharing needed....

There are security implications envoled if netbios is bound to your adaptors.

The microsoft family logon adaptor simply allows you to save passwords under your login. Outlook express for example. Client for microsoft networks is used for lan setups and must never be bound to an internet adaptor. If you acidently disable your firewall then you are leaving holes open that dont need to be.

First stage is to remove dial up networking fro, add/remove programs.

Second stage - Remove any entries that are not on the list I made above. There ahould only be three adaptors. The nic / the client and the tcp/ip entry.....

HTH

ian@huth · 10-03-2004, 12:23

Don't forget that many users want dial-up available as a back-up or to keep email addresses live from other ISPs.

chambece · 10-03-2004, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by br3ach

Just click cancel the once on the windows password thing, and it doesnt normally come back.

It is to do with networking and individual user profiles and desktops.

Like you said, you probably wont use this feature so just cancel it

That's true for the family logon, but this is the Microsoft netowrk one....

br3ach · 10-03-2004, 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by chambece

That's true for the family logon, but this is the Microsoft netowrk one....

I come across it with the client for microsoft networks aswell :/

I'll look into it a little more and if someone doesnt beat me to it ill try and get back here later today...