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Old 09-03-2004, 19:42   #76
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Not exactly sections Russ, Religion is a faith, football is an interest, being gay is a way of life
I'd consider religion to be a way of life and I know a lot of football fans who'd consider their interest to be a way of life too.

If you want to be pedantic, you could use the word 'interests' instead of sections.
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Old 09-03-2004, 19:43   #77
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You don't know what I believe. I'm saying that if a channel was specifically set up to cater for one section of society, then I'm sure it'll only be a matter of time before others will want their own. Whatever next, a channel for ethnic minorities?
The God Channel for example?
 
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Are there?
Very sure of it.


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Come on, you know exactly what I mean!! Of course there are sections of society, there are those who follow religion, those who follow football etc
So Gay people follow other gay people like its some sort of hobby?
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Exactly........i mean whatever next .....Channels for people who like football, fishing, pop music,asian music, country music, culture, nature, sex, Cricket, Boxing, Wrestling ??????????????????????????????????

Its a dangerous path to follow letting everyone have all these specialist channels.


Then add....

Homosexual
Bi Sexual
White supremacy
Black Supremacy
Muslim supremacy
People that like Voyuerism
People that like bondage
People that like pain
people that like lolitas

People that collects model railways
People that trainspot
People that are addicted to Star trek
People that Liberal
People that are communist
People that are Capitalist
People that hate politics
People that love politics


Exactly where do you draw the line?

And can someone tell me what would be different about gay programming schedules that couldnt and arent already shown on current TV?
Does someone really want to sit and watch 24 hours of tv that is repeated every hour? Maybe just maybe the reason is that on channels such as discovery they already cover a lot of issues that would deal with a young homosexual person growing up.

You know what, I'm Hetrosexual and I ****ing wish to god I had TV help to help me deal with all the ******* problems I had when I grew up! Who helped me? My mates and myself. Does that not happen in Gay friendships? Are your friends all "different" to hetro friends? do you have to make out that the whole world is against you and that life is such a struggle? FFS life is a struggle for EVERYONE not just people with uhhhhhh "issues".

If your Gay and want to come out then fine, if you dont then dont, either way myself and probably a VERY large percentag eof the rest of the human race couldnt give a toss either way.

You DO NOT need Gay TV programmes, it'll end up being trashy eurocrap as usual.
 
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So Gay people follow other gay people like its some sort of hobby?
That's NOT what I mean and you know it!

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This is what I mean!
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You DO NOT need Gay TV programmes, it'll end up being trashy eurocrap as usual.

Firstly who says they NEED a gay channel? People WANT a channel there's a difference.

Also there are Gay channels but they are not being shown on NTL, thats the real problem
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Firstly who says they NEED a gay channel? People WANT a channel there's a difference.

Also there are Gay channels but they are not being shown on NTL, thats the real problem
Theres channels that get shown in the USA and the rest of Europe that we cant get in the UK, I dont think that unfair.

Its hard to get a channel that shows Hardcore pornography (at a reasonable time). Do I go on about conspiracies? Do I say that the Cable company is persecuting hetro sexual hard core porn fans?

Wheres the problem?
 
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Also there are Gay channels but they are not being shown on NTL, thats the real problem
Which I believe was the point of this whole thread.
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Which I believe was the point of this whole thread.
But its not just Gay channels that are available on sky that arent on NTL, do any other people complain about this? No they dont do they? why does it have to be such an issue? why does NTL have to be "anti gay" because it chooses not to show Gay channels?

It it anti satanist because it doesnt show satanic channels?
 
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Gay people are not in the minority
Um... well they kind of are, actually...
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Re: Gay channel

Making all these comparisons between gay interests and the other 'interests/groups/ways of life/whatever' is missing the point a little. As already stated, it all comes down to demand, and in the league table of interests etc within ntl's viewership, gay(ness? can't think of another adjective to describe the interests of gay people) obviously doesn't rank high enough to feature.
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Um... well they kind of are, actually...
Well said that person!


I understand that I come across as homophobic. Thats not my intention, my intention is to say that it really isnt such an issue. Life isnt fair, you dont always get what you want, deal with it and move on.

You cant go around accusing companies of discrimination because they dont provide what YOU want.

I'd also like to point out that I am aware of how difficult coming out can be as I saw and talked my cousin through it. My advice was if your unsure keep it private, if you are prepared to have people gossip do it. Either way what difference will it make to you and your partner and your family? He did it, he regretted it in a way, it hasnt changed his life, he doesnt feel relieved he's exactly how he was. Homosexual. end of story.
 
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Tristan why are gay people in the minority? do you want to come to Manchester and check out the Village? certainly not a minority there, and there are millions and millions of gay people in the world
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Theres channels that get shown in the USA and the rest of Europe that we cant get in the UK, I dont think that unfair.

Its hard to get a channel that shows Hardcore pornography (at a reasonable time). Do I go on about conspiracies? Do I say that the Cable company is persecuting hetro sexual hard core porn fans?

Wheres the problem?

I do hope your not equating a Gay channel with a hardcore porn channel?
Being gay is not just about who you have sex with?
Also yes you could say there was a conspiracy to stop showing hardcore porn in peak time hours. I for one do not like to have to pay to watch sex between consenting adults.
Paying to watch sex is just as sad as paying a prostitute to have sex.

Porn should be free for all.
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Homosexuality? Perhaps there's just not enough demand for a channel on the subject/interest/way of life/perssuasion (delete as appropriate) to warrent them investing in it, rather than it being any kind of homophobe issue?

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Tristan why are gay people in the minority? do you want to come to Manchester and check out the Village? certainly not a minority there, and there are millions and millions of gay people in the world
Do they not say it's something like 1 in 4? That's a minority. And going to Manchester's Gay Village is like saying go to London's Chinatown.
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