Gay channel - Page 3

LostintheNW · 07-03-2004, 17:28

You don't need to demand Heavy Metal tv Timewarrior, seeing as thats avaialbe and known as Kerrang!

Anyways I wasn't complaining about porn I was just simply pointing out that just because someone is gay it doesn't mean they want to watch porn 24/7

kronas · 07-03-2004, 17:33

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Originally Posted by LostintheNW

Anyways I wasn't complaining about porn I was just simply pointing out that just because someone is gay it doesn't mean they want to watch porn 24/7

exactly its nonsense to suggest that.

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

one of the smaller channels on sky digi has a program called summat like queer eye straight guy or summat , dont know if it is on ntl though

thats on living tv..........

07-03-2004, 19:44

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Originally Posted by LostintheNW

Just a question, why should someone who wishes to watch a gay channel have to pay a premium fee for it? and seeing as the spice channels are porn, doesn't count for a gay channel now does it. Not all gay people want porn you know!

The question was are ntl homophobic as they don't have gay channels. I merely pointed out, again, that there is gay programming available.
We were days away from launching Purple Radio about two years ago. They had some technical issues they couldn't fix in time, so they never launched.

Frank · 07-03-2004, 20:14

Forgive me for asking an ignorant question, but what exactly is a "gay channel"???? ntl may not carry any "gay channels", but then I don't see any "hetrosexual channels" either

wheeliebin · 07-03-2004, 20:16

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Originally Posted by Russ D

So, who's going to step forward and be the first to accuse NTL of being homophobic for not showing it???

I would have thought yourself mate

Arent you the champion of equality and everyone getting fair share of publicity and air time?

wheeliebin · 07-03-2004, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Frank

Forgive me for asking an ignorant question, but what exactly is a "gay channel"???? ntl may not carry any "gay channels", but then I don't see any "hetrosexual channels" either

A gay channel is a channel where only happy programmes are shown.

LostintheNW · 07-03-2004, 21:25

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Originally Posted by Proppinupthebar

The question was are ntl homophobic as they don't have gay channels. I merely pointed out, again, that there is gay programming available.
We were days away from launching Purple Radio about two years ago. They had some technical issues they couldn't fix in time, so they never launched.

And all I pointed out was that they are porn channels that show nothing but porn, and I am sure if the spice channel was 100% gay porn I don't think it would be on NTL - but its up to NTL what they carry, but if they carried as many channels or more exclusive ones like $ky then they would have more customers

07-03-2004, 21:35

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Originally Posted by LostintheNW

And all I pointed out was that they are porn channels that show nothing but porn, and I am sure if the spice channel was 100% gay porn I don't think it would be on NTL - but its up to NTL what they carry, but if they carried as many channels or more exclusive ones like $ky then they would have more customers

The channels available to Sky customers are not neccasarily provided by Sky. Lots of channels pay a third party (ntl, BT, Globecast for examples) to put them up on the satellites, then the channels pay Sky for an epg listing and encryption if wanted.
On the other hand, ntl have to buy and maintain all equipment required to recieve and pass on to the customers each and every channel.

Not quite as straightforward as you seem to think.

LostintheNW · 07-03-2004, 21:54

Ok I accept your point about channels paying sky to shove them on the satellites, but seeing as NTL get their programs from the same satellites (as we were informed when we got cable installed many years ago when it was nice and friendly C&W!) how come they don't carry them? there are loads of freebie channels on sky and yes they maybe crap but it would be nice to have the choice to watch them or not - anyways this is going OT and I don't wanna do that!

wheeliebin · 07-03-2004, 22:01

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Originally Posted by LostintheNW

Ok I accept your point about channels paying sky to shove them on the satellites, but seeing as NTL get their programs from the same satellites (as we were informed when we got cable installed many years ago when it was nice and friendly C&W!) how come they don't carry them? there are loads of freebie channels on sky and yes they maybe crap but it would be nice to have the choice to watch them or not - anyways this is going OT and I don't wanna do that!

I assume that it comes down to demand amongst NTL customers. Does this chan have a big subscription level?

Rillington · 07-03-2004, 23:25

GTV hasn;t gone on air as yet. It is proposed to be an entertainment channel aimed at gay people broadcasting from teatime till the early hours. I understand it will show some soft-core porn overnight. The channel is due to launch on satellite shortly.

Yes, the channel is to be a premium channel, like most of the Asian channels, for example, are.

There are two gay channels available but neither are on ntl. Gaydate TV is the gay version of the The Dating Channel, which is for heterosexual people. ntl chooses to take hetero dating channel but not the gay version even though they are made by the same company. People might conclude that ntl have intentionally chosen not to take the gay version, only the hetero version, and that the decision was anti-gay.

The other is Gaydar Radio which broadcasts on Sky, the intenret, on DAB in London and Brighton but NOT on cable (either ntl or TW).

There is currently no all-porn gay channel in the UK. There was one a few years ago on satellite but, as per usual, no cable company was willing to take the channel even though it was happy to broadcast the hetero porn channels.

Tristan · 07-03-2004, 23:36

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Originally Posted by LostintheNW

Ok I accept your point about channels paying sky to shove them on the satellites, but seeing as NTL get their programs from the same satellites (as we were informed when we got cable installed many years ago when it was nice and friendly C&W!) how come they don't carry them? there are loads of freebie channels on sky and yes they maybe crap but it would be nice to have the choice to watch them or not - anyways this is going OT and I don't wanna do that!

NTL do indeed source the majority of their programmes from the satellite feed.

But they still have to receive the programme, regig it from DVB-S to DVB-C, multiplex it, and send it down the cable to your house. Now not only does the equiptment to do all this cost money to maintain, and the engineers looking after it need their fat salaries paying

, but there's also limited space available on dcab. If NTL put a (satellite) FTA channel on the list, it goes in place of one that could potentially pay for an EPG spot.

It's not all black and white.

Russ · 08-03-2004, 00:22

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Originally Posted by wheeliebin

I would have thought yourself mate

Arent you the champion of equality and everyone getting fair share of publicity and air time?

No

kronas · 08-03-2004, 04:03

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Originally Posted by Russ D

No

and you lament others for having a bais

back to the topic, one of the only reasons i see NTL not being interested in the channels is this demand, enough demand is not there to sufficiently warrent a launch, a few hundred people out of the many thousands on the network wont cover the costs.

sky has space to fill, and channels are happy to pay them, thats the advantage of a monopoly there is not no competition to create a push to add channels, even if they (NTL TW) dont compete in all uk areas.

poolking · 08-03-2004, 05:39

Kronas,

How do you know that sky has space to fill??

Have you actually asked them?

I hate it when people make assumptions without at least checking.