Wireless access driving me mad.

Paulie · 07-03-2004, 16:18

Ok, there is probably something really dumb that I am forgetting here but so far I have:-

Cable modem going to an ethernet/usb swap thing (no ethernet card) and into my pc. A Netgear wireless router comming out. My hifi (downstairs) is based on a hard drive which is run by a pda has a wireless connection, and that works fine. I bought a wierless pci card for my daughter`s pc and I just cannot seem to get it to work. Apart from a software issue which seems to be going round in circles of "new hardware detected" etc. Anyway I managed to get the card up and running, found the network, good signal strength, but just wouldn`t connect. I`ve removed the card for the moment as it was driving me insane.

My pc is running xp home and my daughter`s is running 98se.

Any ideas please, please, pretty please.

Charlie_Bubble · 07-03-2004, 17:02

Is the wireless card you bought for your daughters PC the same make as the router, ie netgear?

Paulie · 07-03-2004, 17:06

No it`s a trust speedshare card. Could that be the problem?

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Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble

Is the wireless card you bought for your daughters PC the same make as the router, ie netgear?

Charlie_Bubble · 07-03-2004, 17:10

Could be. I've got a netgear wireless router and can't get my laptop to connect via wireless for the life of me. I've tried everything. Had intended to get a netgear wireless card, but haven't got round to it yet. See what other people think though. If you can still return the card, why not try swapping for a netgear one? Probably more expensive, but if it works...

Paulie · 07-03-2004, 17:13

I`ve got a feeling that, that`s the problem then because my wife has a laptop with a netgear card and it connected first time. looks like a visit to ebay then.

Charlie_Bubble · 07-03-2004, 17:17

I think netgear wireless routers are very finicky. My laptop came with a built-in wireless card, which doesn't work and is a bit frustrating. Sat there for a couple of hours one afternoon trying to get the bloody thing to work!

erol · 07-03-2004, 17:22

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Originally Posted by Paulie

Anyway I managed to get the card up and running, found the network, good signal strength, but just wouldn`t connect. I`ve removed the card for the moment as it was driving me insane.

My pc is running xp home and my daughter`s is running 98se.

Any ideas please, please, pretty please.

You should be able to use any wifi card with any wifi AP (802.11b and 802.11g)

If the client card can find the router / AP but you are unable to 'connect' (what do you actualy mean by that?) the chance are it is a firewall issue somewhere. Are you running a firewall on client PC or the one that isattached to router and CM? Is the client card set to get an IP add automaticaly and if sio what IP gets assigned to it? Have you got wep (or WPA) enabled on the router / AP. Does the router / AP limit connection by MAC address (MAC filtering?)

If you do not have encryption enabled on the router /AP (wep or wpa) or you are sure you have entered the right key into the client card and you are not filtering wireless access based on MAC addresses and you do not have a firewall on either machine - it should work. Try pinging one machine to the other and visa versa. If you can ping but not browse check the IE setting for the client machine and make sure there is not proxy set on it.

Bascially could be

WEP or WPA encrytion ser on the AP but not on client card.
Wireless MAC add filtering on the AP (and the client cards MAC add is not in the 'allowed list)
Firewall issue on either client PC or the PC with router/ cm attached.
IE settings on the client machine.

HTH

Ramrod · 07-03-2004, 17:26

Why don't you try to put the router before you pipe your BB through the usb adaptor, ie. it's the first thing the signal goes through before getting to your pc?
....Might make things easier, thats how my network and netgear router is setup....

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Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble

Could be. I've got a netgear wireless router and can't get my laptop to connect via wireless for the life of me. I've tried everything. Had intended to get a netgear wireless card, but haven't got round to it yet. See what other people think though. If you can still return the card, why not try swapping for a netgear one? Probably more expensive, but if it works...

My pc card and router are different makes....no problems here...

Paulie · 07-03-2004, 17:40

What I meant by can`t connect was when I hit the Internet icon all I get is an error message, same with email. The xp firewall on my pc is on, but has no detremental effect on my hifi when it needs to connect to the internet. As far as i`m aware there is no real security involved.

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Originally Posted by erol

You should be able to use any wifi card with any wifi AP (802.11b and 802.11g)

If the client card can find the router / AP but you are unable to 'connect' (what do you actualy mean by that?) the chance are it is a firewall issue somewhere. Are you running a firewall on client PC or the one that isattached to router and CM? Is the client card set to get an IP add automaticaly and if sio what IP gets assigned to it? Have you got wep (or WPA) enabled on the router / AP. Does the router / AP limit connection by MAC address (MAC filtering?)

If you do not have encryption enabled on the router /AP (wep or wpa) or you are sure you have entered the right key into the client card and you are not filtering wireless access based on MAC addresses and you do not have a firewall on either machine - it should work. Try pinging one machine to the other and visa versa. If you can ping but not browse check the IE setting for the client machine and make sure there is not proxy set on it.

Bascially could be

WEP or WPA encrytion ser on the AP but not on client card.
Wireless MAC add filtering on the AP (and the client cards MAC add is not in the 'allowed list)
Firewall issue on either client PC or the PC with router/ cm attached.
IE settings on the client machine.

HTH

Scarlett · 07-03-2004, 18:23

Could also be the motherboard drivers, I had the same problem on my old box due to the USB 2.0 drivers or lack of.

It tried to re-install the wireless connection every time I booted up.

Charlie_Bubble · 07-03-2004, 18:25

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

Why don't you try to put the router before you pipe your BB through the usb adaptor, ie. it's the first thing the signal goes through before getting to your pc?
....Might make things easier, thats how my network and netgear router is setup....My pc card and router are different makes....no problems here...

Yes, but what makes are you talking about. I'm not saying ALL wireless routers are finicky. I'm saying Netgear ones seem to be.

Indians · 07-03-2004, 18:32

I think Ramrod has it, i.e. CM to Router first then ether/usb adapter from router to pc, the other wireless gear will connect to Internet directly thro router. You say it connects to network ok, just not internet. So router first should do it.

Ramrod · 07-03-2004, 18:42

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Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble

Yes, but what makes are you talking about. I'm not saying ALL wireless routers are finicky. I'm saying Netgear ones seem to be.

I'm on a netgear router, no probs. Had more probs with the corega pc card...

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Originally Posted by Indians

I think Ramrod has it, i.e. CM to Router first then ether/usb adapter from router to pc, the other wireless gear will connect to Internet directly thro router. You say it connects to network ok, just not internet. So router first should do it.

Yep, then you have the hardware firewall first as well...