Newsflash - Page 4

peterska2 · 03-07-2003, 22:51

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Originally posted by Escapee
I must say that rumours about the Cardiff building were happening over two years ago, and it has become apparent that a certain guy with a little bit of an Irish accent! has been moving everything into his own back yard.

I had a message from someone who attended an introduction session a few months ago when he was employed by ntl in Belfast, he said that guy openly stated that he was going to make Belfast the centre of excellence for Broadband.

He intended to have everything on his patch, I guess it's just the thin end of the wedge with more changes to follow. The same happened with wales when they moved all the power to Glasgow and then when it went to the Midlands. If there is another structure change, who knows all the jobs could come back to Wales.

If any ntl employees are reading these posts, don't vent your anger at us. Aim it at the source of the problem, I don't think anyone who hates ntl as a company wants to see people out of work,

Again well said.

This is typical ntl and they deserve to rot in hell.

i end up out of work and hate ntl and it is ntl who put me out of work

Bill Payer · 03-07-2003, 23:03

In fairness to Kerry-Anne,it was Scrumhalf who revealed what the rumour/fact is,coupled with some sloppy editing from Jamie there is no threat of a ban.
Who does the CS in Cardiff deal with? Whenever I phone,I'm always put through to Belfast.

Alan Waddington · 03-07-2003, 23:06

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Originally posted by peterska2
i end up out of work

Been there. Left before the place closed. Good luck.

Alan

peterska2 · 03-07-2003, 23:06

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Originally posted by Andre
Tp keep your personal grievances out of this thread about the ntl building in Cardiff.

That's a sweeping statement there, & one that is just not true.

Do you think we have been sitting here doing nothing since the sight launched??

Please-keep your grievances off the board, I am always available via pm/email, & I have been more than civil with you, & would ask the same in return.

Shame the rest of the team haven't been.

Last time I PM's you you never replied.

Fingy · 03-07-2003, 23:15

All the Cardiff Customer Care and Admin staff have my deepest sympathy, I've spoken to several already, including Scrumhalfs wife. Its a sad day. All the Celtic Customer Care will move to Glasgow (and no it doesn't take 3 - 6 hours to get through.)

Escapee, workforce will still be based in Cardiff. It also seems to be stated that Belfast get it easy, I don't think so. The Irish accented one may happen to be based there, shouldn't be taken out on the staff though as they didn't decide it.

Martin · 03-07-2003, 23:28

How many people are effected by this?

peterska2 · 03-07-2003, 23:30

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Originally posted by Martin
How many people are effected by this?

96 redundancies

Escapee · 03-07-2003, 23:31

Fingy said

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Escapee, workforce will still be based in Cardiff. It also seems to be stated that Belfast get it easy, I don't think so. The Irish accented one may happen to be based there, shouldn't be taken out on the staff though as they didn't decide it.

I wouldn't take it out on Belfast people, allthough I did have many verbals when departments were wiped out in Wales to save cwc jobs in the Midland during planning for growth.

I think the Tony Blair type smile from the Irish one is to be treated with caution! I certainly know from experience.
I guess you prabably know as well as I do, in ntl structures have generally lasted about 2 years. Then they will change back to a version of an earlier theme.

"Oh things are not working lets change the structure"

If the Irish one were to leave! who knows what would happen, I guess the next strongest empire builder would get it in his own back yard.

The baddies are ntl not the employees, although bad ones do seem to flourish especially in managemeny positions.

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96 redundancies

why 96, is there a reason like last time?

Martin · 03-07-2003, 23:34

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Originally posted by peterska2
96 redundancies

Thats bad

I hope they can soon get fixed up, with something else.

Stuart R · 04-07-2003, 00:05

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Originally posted by Fingy
All the Cardiff Customer Care and Admin staff have my deepest sympathy, I've spoken to several already, including Scrumhalfs wife. Its a sad day. All the Celtic Customer Care will move to Glasgow (and no it doesn't take 3 - 6 hours to get through.)

Escapee, workforce will still be based in Cardiff. It also seems to be stated that Belfast get it easy, I don't think so. The Irish accented one may happen to be based there, shouldn't be taken out on the staff though as they didn't decide it.

Thank you!

Escapee · 04-07-2003, 07:41

I wouldn't normally mention personal things that happen on another site, but I dont think/hope the thread they removed by me on the other site was taken out of context by affected or worried employees.

One person, an ntl employee seemed to take the oppertunity to vent all his anger in my direction instead of channelling it to the real source. (I guess it could of been a ploy to get me to take the brunt) It seems that someone mentioning the word redundancy or hinting will become the brunt of all the bad feeling.
As I said I know how they treat people at ntl, and it just shows in the way that they have picked 96 people again, just to stay under that magical 100 figure (for ntl) as they did last time.

I have stated often that ntl will do whatever is necessary to toe the line with their new owners, they have to take any measures they can to meet targets. Some departments are receiving horrendous treatment and many of the employees in these departments think the company is hoping these actions will make them leave to save redundancy money.

I would just like to add this, look around, take note in the near future and just mark my words as follows.

The pro-ntl employees will be very quiet or try to steer discussions away from this subject with this bad news about, but they will resume normal service and continue to praise the service and actions of their employer as soon as they think we have forgotten about the people sadly affected by the job cuts.
Give it a short while and they will of conveniently forgotten about it, not something the affected or all the other worried employees can do though

People who stick up for the bad actions of their employers, I hate them.

they are just as bad!

th'engineer · 04-07-2003, 08:44

Well to all those NTL employees that said i was talking a load of BS over churn rates ands the CAP having an effect on jobs.

Do not really want to say i told you so, but if people open there eyes in respect of the customer needs they would not be having this.

BIll Goodland is probably the reason for this being needed and his CAP

grum1978 · 04-07-2003, 09:22

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Originally posted by Escapee
I wouldn't normally mention personal things that happen on another site, but I dont think/hope the thread they removed by me on the other site was taken out of context by affected or worried employees.

One person, an ntl employee seemed to take the oppertunity to vent all his anger in my direction instead of channelling it to the real source. (I guess it could of been a ploy to get me to take the brunt) It seems that someone mentioning the word redundancy or hinting will become the brunt of all the bad feeling.
As I said I know how they treat people at ntl, and it just shows in the way that they have picked 96 people again, just to stay under that magical 100 figure (for ntl) as they did last time.

I have stated often that ntl will do whatever is necessary to toe the line with their new owners, they have to take any measures they can to meet targets. Some departments are receiving horrendous treatment and many of the employees in these departments think the company is hoping these actions will make them leave to save redundancy money.

I would just like to add this, look around, take note in the near future and just mark my words as follows.

The pro-ntl employees will be very quiet or try to steer discussions away from this subject with this bad news about, but they will resume normal service and continue to praise the service and actions of their employer as soon as they think we have forgotten about the people sadly affected by the job cuts.
Give it a short while and they will of conveniently forgotten about it, not something the affected or all the other worried employees can do though

People who stick up for the bad actions of their employers, I hate them. they are just as bad!

My not posting on here will have to go by the way said while i respond to Escapee's post

The only reason why i 'vented my anger' at you was because i do not think or like people that seem to gloat and say i'm f**king right when people have just heard they have lost their jobs there is no need for you to massage your own ego in these cases

Like i said on the other site GROW UP YOU MUPPET

End of rant back to not posting now

Gareth D · 04-07-2003, 09:42

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Originally posted by th'engineer
Well to all those NTL employees that said i was talking a load of BS over churn rates ands the CAP having an effect on jobs.

Do not really want to say i told you so, but if people open there eyes in respect of the customer needs they would not be having this.

BIll Goodland is probably the reason for this being needed and his CAP

What a load of shite

Escapee · 04-07-2003, 09:46

The above is just typical of someone who want's everyone to think that I am gloating at people losing their jobs.

it is very easy to miss the point that I have been in exactly the same situation whilst working for ntl, it was after 5 months of being under threat and after countless poor treatment and failed promises that I didn't wait for he bullet but walked.

(many more are feeling the same now)

I suffered serious stress and psoriasis due to the companies actions, and was rather silly not to go to a doctor and take time off sick. I got as far as phoning for an appointment to be told I would have to wait 2 weeks for a meeting with my doctor.
Do you or anyone else honestly think I want to gloat and wish that sort of thing on average ntl worker?

i am not a disgruntled customer who want's to blame every single person in ntl for my problem.

If people here or anywhere else feel that I am gloating about another example of ntl people treating employees like s**t please PM me, and I culd probably enlighten you a bit more towards my feelings for badly treated ntl employees.

btw: I have been told this morning that all departments of ntl were told by mid day ysterday, so it was hardly something confidential was it.