In Defense of the Marriage - Page 29

Xaccers · 13-02-2004, 17:29

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Originally Posted by stuartbe

These days if you live with someone for more than 6 months you have legal rights like a Marriage does...............

That's a common misbelief

Stuartbe · 13-02-2004, 17:33

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

That's a common misbelief

I thought that that a common in law wife/husband had the same rights ??

O.K. if not - why not have a contract made out ??

Russ · 13-02-2004, 17:34

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Originally Posted by dellwear

I have it on very good authority :

http://www.newscientist.com/hottopic.../dinomyths.jsp

That doesn't actually tell you anything - it looks more like someone giving their opinion. I'm at work right now but when I get back I'll have some links which show markings and drawings found in caves estimated to be about 3,000 years old depicting humans AND large beasts together.

Shaun · 13-02-2004, 17:40

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Originally Posted by Russ D

That doesn't actually tell you anything - it looks more like someone giving their opinion. I'm at work right now but when I get back I'll have some links which show markings and drawings found in caves estimated to be about 3,000 years old depicting humans AND large beasts together.

That as maybe, but they prolly weren't dino's, it is generally accepted in the scientific community that they died approximately 65 million years ago.

Stuartbe · 13-02-2004, 17:43

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Originally Posted by stuartbe

Hi......

Here goes my attempt to get back on topic

Failed in my attempt then

Russ · 13-02-2004, 17:47

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Originally Posted by dellwear

That as maybe, but they prolly weren't dino's, it is generally accepted in the scientific community that they died approximately 65 million years ago.

But what about those of us who, um, aren't in the scientific community? And what would you suggest these beasts were? Surely science could tell us that? Or even just have a guess?

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Originally Posted by stuartbe

Failed in my attempt then

Not for long - I'll be in the other thread now

Xaccers · 13-02-2004, 17:48

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Originally Posted by stuartbe

I thought that that a common in law wife/husband had the same rights ??

O.K. if not - why not have a contract made out ??

A contract would not give gays the rights of next of kin, or get around inheritance tax, or get pension payments.

Gays would like these if they are in a permanent relationship.
Hetrosexuals have this with either a religious marriage or civil marriage in a registry office (I think the legal part of it is actually the same, the religious part just has the extra ceremony, ie if you just had the ceremony, you'd not be legally married, hence the signing of the registry)

Gay rights groups just want the rights, not the wedding, not the marriage. Something like a registry wedding, but with no ceremony at all.

Xaccers · 13-02-2004, 17:51

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Originally Posted by Russ D

But what about those of us who, um, aren't in the scientific community? And what would you suggest these beasts were? Surely science could tell us that? Or even just have a guess?

Not for long - I'll be in the other thread now

Do you know of any pics of these on the web Russ? I'd like to take a view.

The only ones I know about myself, are the paintings down in Oz, where there used to roam a giant lizard (not a dinosaur).

Shaun · 13-02-2004, 17:58

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Originally Posted by Russ D

But what about those of us who, um, aren't in the scientific community? And what would you suggest these beasts were? Surely science could tell us that? Or even just have a guess?

Not for long - I'll be in the other thread now

Russ how on earth am I suppose to comment on this from the limited info you have given in the thread (now come on), I may be a scientist but I'm not omnipotent

From the information that paleontologists have they decided that the the dinosaurs dies out 65 million years ago.

You can believe it or not but at the end of the day THEY have physical evidence that they have evaluated and come to a decision. Paleontology isn't my field, I am just relaying info I have picked up from the popular scientific press, there's no need to be sarcastic.

Shaun · 13-02-2004, 18:01

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

Do you know of any pics of these on the web Russ? I'd like to take a view.

The only ones I know about myself, are the paintings down in Oz, where there used to roam a giant lizard (not a dinosaur).

Funny you should mention those

http://www.geolsoc.org.uk/template.cfm?name=AMS29842852

13-02-2004, 18:28

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Originally Posted by towny

I note that you say 'some', but am deeply concerned at how you quantify this. A tiny minority? A somewhat larger one? A narrow majority, perhaps?

A very vocal minority. One that has enough money and political "clout" to be able to push their message into the mainstream of politics.

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Through Christian Union at university I met Christians from a very broad range of backgrounds and traditions, and I can assure you that I never once met anyone who would put their name to the assertions made by that website.

Fortunately we have much less of that sort of thing in the UK, but we still have the bigotry and prejudice which lurks around it.

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It's just ... wrong.

You know that and I know that...

13-02-2004, 18:31

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Originally Posted by Sociable

IExtreme right and left wing ideologies nearly always end up being almost identical when put into practice hence his description of Nazi ideology being socialist has some mileage. In essence the two extremes of right and left actually complete a circle, as for the ordinary man under either regime the result is always the same.

I'm sure this has been mentioned before on this site, but I suggest people visit http://www.politicalcompass.org/ which divides political thought up into not only "Left or Right" but "Authoritarianism and Libertarianism".

After checking *their* political compass, have a look at the "analysis" section.

(NB I don't entirely agree with all the site's conclusions, but does make you think)

Sociable · 13-02-2004, 18:55

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Originally Posted by Graham

I'm sure this has been mentioned before on this site, but I suggest people visit http://www.politicalcompass.org/ which divides political thought up into not only "Left or Right" but "Authoritarianism and Libertarianism".

After checking *their* political compass, have a look at the "analysis" section.

(NB I don't entirely agree with all the site's conclusions, but does make you think)

Fun test.

I find myself sitting snugly directly between Nelson Mandela, Gandhi and The Dalai Lama.

13-02-2004, 18:59

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Originally Posted by Sociable

I find myself sitting snugly directly between Nelson Mandela, Gandhi and The Dalai Lama.

Nor · 13-02-2004, 19:02

Been meaning to do that test for a while now. Finally got round to it ....

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Same as Gandhi apparantly.