In Defense of the Marriage
13-02-2004, 00:41
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Re: In Defense of the Marriage
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Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve
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Is that aimed at me ??? 
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13-02-2004, 00:51
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Re: In Defense of the Marriage
Presumably carbon dating is a fallacy, Darwin's theory of evolution is nonsense, dinosaurs did not exist.
Jerrek all the Christians I know regard the Bible as metaphor, I haven't met anyone who considers it the absolute truth. You are entitled to your beliefs of course but to base a rational argument on the book of Genesis is very dangerous territory.
My belief for what its' worth is that Christianity etc. are the latest version of the human race comfort blanket that there is some kind of existence after death and it's going to be a wonderful one if one is virtuous. Greeks and Romans had their theories, now regarded as the myths of Greece and Rome, Christianity will be the same story eventually or will be replaced by a more relevant at the time theory.
That's outside of this thread though, but thought I should explain why it's hard to believe that comment regarding Genesis.
Religion: both an opium to the masses and a way of setting behaviour standards, and sadly at its' worst a way to justify the most horrifying atrocities in the name of a deity.
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13-02-2004, 00:52
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Re: In Defense of the Marriage
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You don't believe in evolution then Jerrek ?
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Absolutely not. People are always asking about the missing link, but I'm asking, where is the damn chain!
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13-02-2004, 00:54
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Re: In Defense of the Marriage
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherN00b
Presumably carbon dating is a fallacy
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The fact that you can get readings from the same rock ranging from 100 years to 1 billion years indicate just how inaccurate it is.
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Darwin's theory of evolution is nonsense
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Yes. Note the word theory, meaning, it has never been proven.
How do you get that?
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Jerrek all the Christians I know regard the Bible as metaphor, I haven't met anyone who considers it the absolute truth.
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Then you have not met any real Christians.
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You are entitled to your beliefs of course but to base a rational argument on the book of Genesis is very dangerous territory.
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Why? Does my religion offend you? Do you feel threatened that I base decisions on my religion? Is freedom of religion too much for you?
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13-02-2004, 00:55
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Re: In Defense of the Marriage
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Absolutely not. People are always asking about the missing link, but I'm asking, where is the damn chain!
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I'm busy so someone else can find links, but the chain is there right from when our forebears were rodents scrambling around during the Jurassic period through progression to primates, homo erectus, and finally homo sapien.
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13-02-2004, 00:56
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Re: In Defense of the Marriage
Prove it.
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13-02-2004, 00:58
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Re: In Defense of the Marriage
No-one has ever said dinosaurs didn't exist. They're mentioned in the Bible.
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13-02-2004, 00:59
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Re: In Defense of the Marriage
Indeed they are. In the book of Job especially, the oldest book in the Bible.
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13-02-2004, 01:02
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Re: In Defense of the Marriage
The fossils say 65 million years ago though, not a few thousand.
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13-02-2004, 01:03
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Re: In Defense of the Marriage
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I'm busy so someone else can find links, but the chain is there right from when our forebears were rodents scrambling around during the Jurassic period through progression to primates, homo erectus, and finally homo sapien.
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Can anyone confirm men are still stuck in the homo erectus stage 
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13-02-2004, 01:07
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Re: In Defense of the Marriage
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Yes. Note the word theory, meaning, it has never been proven.
How do you get that?
Then you have not met any real Christians.
Why? Does my religion offend you? Do you feel threatened that I base decisions on my religion? Is freedom of religion too much for you?
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Darwin's theory is commonly accepted as fact, even by various parts of the Christian church.
Dinosaurs existed well before humans were humans, had we co-existed at the same time, they'd have eaten Adam and Eve pretty rapidly!
I have met many Christians who know that true faith lies inside the heart not in believing word for word a book.
Your religion doesn't offend me in the slightest, nor do your beliefs. The fact you base decisions on it concern me, spirituality and rationality are not good partners and don't co-exist too well a lot of the time.
Sadly this avenue of this debate has been completely closed off by that statement though, while I don't agree with your beliefs I do respect them and aren't going to continue this. I do hope though that in the future you have a more questioning attitude over blind faith - the most interesting Christians I know can present both persuasive and scientific reasons for the existence of their deity.
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13-02-2004, 01:09
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Re: In Defense of the Marriage
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Can anyone confirm men are still stuck in the homo erectus stage |
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Nope I'm not even close to erectus sorry 
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13-02-2004, 01:22
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Re: In Defense of the Marriage
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Nope I'm not even close to erectus sorry |
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13-02-2004, 02:31
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Re: In Defense of the Marriage
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I'm glad he said that, it saved me from having to do it...!! 
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13-02-2004, 02:33
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Re: In Defense of the Marriage
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Darwin's theory is commonly accepted as fact, even by various parts of the Christian church.
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Which parts would that be? Can you provide any links?
Just out of interest.... http://www.darwins-theory-of-evolution.com/
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