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[Bifta]

Originally Posted by Bifta

Yes, but ok, I'll dig out an old second hand car, can't guarantee the literage as modern european and japanese engines are so much better nowadays. Give me a day or so and I'll dig something up.

I'll start with a 1996 N Reg Caterham Super Seven 1.6 litre, £11,750 on Autotrader, it's getting close but not quite close enough, 0-60 in 6.9 seconds and a top speed of 110 .. I'm still looking!

edit: Lotus Esprit Turbo, £7995, reputed top track speed of over 180mph, 0-60 in 4.7 seconds, the only problem is it's I believe a 2.2 litre engine, still half of that of the Corvette though, and with a marked improvement of over half a second in acceleration and it leaves your 'bus' in the dust top speed wise.

edit again: perhaps someone else on here could find a suitable contender?

[Jerrek]

Originally Posted by danielf

Getting scared now?

Not really. It is just that I'm fond of Corvettes. And Bifta, go ahead. Pick a new car. I don't care.

[Jerrek]

Originally Posted by Bifta

edit: Lotus Esprit Turbo, £7995, reputed top track speed of over 180mph, 0-60 in 4.7 seconds, the only problem is it's I believe a 2.2 litre engine, still half of that of the Corvette though, and with a marked improvement of over half a second in acceleration and it leaves your 'bus' in the dust top speed wise.

For $22,000, I can get a very decent C5 Corvette. August 1 issue of Car and Driver, on page 144:

0-60 in 3.8 seconds
1/4 mile in 12.4 sec
Top Speed: 185 mph

Comparing with the Lotus (ironically a GM car), $18,000 will get you a very decent C4, perhaps a C5.

0-60: 4.4 seconds
Top speed: 170 mph


I'm sorry. Your argument that a 1.6L engine will outperform a 5.7L engine just does not hold water.

[Bifta]

Originally Posted by Jerrek

For $22,000, I can get a very decent C5 Corvette. August 1 issue of Car and Driver, on page 144:

0-60 in 3.8 seconds
1/4 mile in 12.4 sec
Top Speed: 185 mph

Comparing with the Lotus (ironically a GM car), $18,000 will get you a very decent C4, perhaps a C5.

0-60: 4.4 seconds
Top speed: 170 mph


I'm sorry. Your argument that a 1.6L engine will outperform a 5.7L engine just does not hold water.

Perhaps I should rephrase slightly as the message behind the original post is clearly lost on you. There are 'probably' a lot of 5+ litre cars that a good 1.6 engine over here could outperform and still not guzzle a whole petrol station just to get to work, is that better for you? Why won't you drive anything smaller? I can think of two reasons but I best not post them

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Bifta

I'll start with a 1996 N Reg Caterham Super Seven 1.6 litre, £11,750 on Autotrader, it's getting close but not quite close enough, 0-60 in 6.9 seconds and a top speed of 110 .. I'm still looking!

edit: Lotus Esprit Turbo, £7995, reputed top track speed of over 180mph, 0-60 in 4.7 seconds, the only problem is it's I believe a 2.2 litre engine, still half of that of the Corvette though, and with a marked improvement of over half a second in acceleration and it leaves your 'bus' in the dust top speed wise.

edit again: perhaps someone else on here could find a suitable contender?

The Lotus Carlton
Itââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s a Vauxhall Lotus Carlton. To cut a long story short, Lotus were employed to produce a Limited Edition version of the Vauxhall Carlton. They started with the already superb 3.0 litre 24v Carlton GSi, reengineered it, and ended up with a 3.6 litre 24v twin turbocharged and intercoooled 377 BHP, 170+ MPH monster. The gearbox, differential, brakes and chassis were all modified and/or replaced to handle the increased power. In all, only 950 cars were built, of which 284 were right hand drive Vauxhall Lotus Carltons, the rest were left hand drive Opel Lotus Omegas. The worldââ‚ƚ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s fastest production saloon car.

Difficult question. The †˜officialâà ƒÆ’¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€ žÂ¢ top speed is 176 MPH. Several motoring magazines of the time attempted to verify this, but there arenââ‚ ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t any runways long enough in the UK to do it on. And no-one in there right minds would publish an article claiming to have done 170+ MPH on public roads. Rumor has it that top speed is governed by the rev. limiter in 5th gear, and this would give a top speed of about 187 MPH. The 0-60 time is around 5.2 seconds, according to the magazines, but they donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t have to pay for new tyres, clutches and gearboxes. Itââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s not particularly quick away from the lights because of its weight (nearly 2 tons), but since you can do nearly 60 MPH in first, you donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t get beaten that often.

The SAAB 9-3 Aero
2.0T 210bhp

Four-cylinder high output turbo.
Displacement: 1,988 dm3.
EEC rating: 154 kW (210 hp) at 5300 r/min.
Recommended fuel: 95 octane (min. 91).
Top speed: 146 mph; auto. 143 mph . 0 to 60 mph: 7.5 sec; auto. 8.3 sec.
Overtaking,6 speed man.: 40 to 60 mph in fourth gear 6.2 sec; 50 to 70 mph in fifth gear 8.5 sec.
Fuel consumption mpg *: 23.7/41.5/32.8; auto. 20.2/39.8/29.4.
Carbon dioxide emission (CO2)combined g/km: 207; auto. 232.

*City/highway/Combined driving cycle, according to the 1999/100 EC directive.
This car is actually faster in normal driving (e.g. 40-70 in Third) that a Ferrari -

[basa]

No one gonna mention the Ford RS Turbo Cosworth or Subaru Impreza WRX ??

I recall (a long time ago) at Oulton Park the 1600cc Lotus Cortina's (Graham Hill & Jim Clark) dumping all over the 7 liter (yes 7 !!) Ford Galaxies !!

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by basa

No one gonna mention the Ford RS Turbo Cosworth or Subaru Impreza WRX ??

I recall (a long time ago) at Oulton Park the 1600cc Lotus Cortina's (Graham Hill & Jim Clark) dumping all over the 7 liter (yes 7 !!) Ford Galaxies !!

Am I the only one who has noticed the

word keeps appearing?

[dodgyboy]

Not quite in the same league:

Ginetta G20

Still pretty nippy for a 1.8

Engine Capacity 1796 cc
Cylinders 4
Power 138 ( bhp / rpm )
Torque No Data
CO2 Emissions

Performance
0 > 60 mph Acceleration6.3 seconds
Maximum Speed 130 mph

[dodgyboy]

Now I'm really scared.
I learnt to drive in a Metro that was more powerful than this

[Jerrek]

Originally Posted by Bifta

Perhaps I should rephrase slightly as the message behind the original post is clearly lost on you. There are 'probably' a lot of 5+ litre cars that a good 1.6 engine over here could outperform and still not guzzle a whole petrol station just to get to work, is that better for you? Why won't you drive anything smaller? I can think of two reasons but I best not post them

I have no wish to drive a dinky 2.0L engine. Personal preference. My car will be a Corvette. Perhaps not a C5 or C6 right off the bat, but then a C4. My second car, probably for when I'm married, will be a minivan. My family have a minivan and it is amazing for a family.

Check your PMs. I've sent you a picture of my penis, so you can see I'm not compensating. :pp

[Julian]

My favourite deceptive production small car from the early 90's

1272cc
0 - 60 in 8.1 secs
Top speed 122 mph
113 bhp

51.4 mpg at 56 mph.

A right little beastie and very difficult to stop.

The Polo G40

Hey Debsy I think it's very rude of the lads to just steam in and nick your thread like this.

Why don't they start a car thread for themselves or ask if there can be a car forum.

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Hey Debsy I think it's very rude of the lads to just steam in and nick your thread like this.

Why don't they start a car thread for themselves or ask if there can be a car forum.

i did , check out post #37 , just some ppl didnt take any notice

[Julian]

Sorry

I'll get me coat.............

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by Julian

Sorry

I'll get me coat.............

pmsl @ that