Re-classification Of Cannabis

[Sociable]

Originally Posted by towny

Very interesting indeed, but does cannabis really help you to focus on anything?!

Much like alcohol the effect is more one of allowing one to stop focusing on the things which are distracting you.

This I suspect is one reason I and many others find it helps with pain relief.

It actually aids the process of not thinking hence its danger when used at a time when full concentration is required.

I smoke I drive but never in the same 24 hour period just wish those that over indulge with alcohol at night then jump in cars in the AM would do likewiae.

[neel2k]

Originally Posted by towny

Very interesting indeed, but does cannabis really help you to focus on anything?!

Hindus have been using it (somoking it, drinking it, using it from medicine) for over 3000 years.
Here's an extract from http://www.cannabis.net/india/
The Hindu belief system accommodates this by prescribing use in such a way that this effect becomes beneficial. A key factor is that low potency preparations (bhang, thandai) are available. It allows individuals with complex life tasks, goals and obligations to indulge in moderation. The drug is also taken in a ritualized context, facilitating concentration and relaxation. It is taken at times, such as in the evening or on holidays, in which focus on the immediate present is a welcome change. Use of the more potent preparations (ganja, charas) is not condoned for this group. Above all, moderation is enjoined and popular folk belief warns of the potential problems of excess. Ganja and charas are regarded more ambivalently as poisons or semipoisons.

Well if it gets rid of your daily distractions then maybe you can concentrate better.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by towny

Very interesting indeed, but does cannabis really help you to focus on anything?!

I speak from experience when I say it does exactly the opposite. But maybe it depends on what you're trying to focus on

I haven't touched the stuff in the last 10 years (and feel no desire to), but I do think the reclassification is a good thing. I consider it on a par with alcohol, which can wreak havoc, but is considered socially acceptable.

Originally Posted by Xaccers

I'd still like to know why people need to take drugs? (other than an adiction)

Why do people drink alcohol?

(Actually that's more or less a serious question, since I've never drunk it)

Originally Posted by Sociable

Much like alcohol the effect is more one of allowing one to stop focusing on the things which are distracting you.

This I suspect is one reason I and many others find it helps with pain relief.

It actually aids the process of not thinking hence its danger when used at a time when full concentration is required.

I smoke I drive but never in the same 24 hour period just wish those that over indulge with alcohol at night then jump in cars in the AM would do likewiae.

The potential use of cannabis as medical pain relief is interesting, but what worries me is that the drug as used today is unrefined and contains a lot more than just the useful pain-relieving chemicals. Don't you worry about the increasing evidence that cannabis smoke is even more carcinogenic than tobacco, or that regular cannabis use is increasingly connected with mental illness?

[Sociable]

Originally Posted by towny

The potential use of cannabis as medical pain relief is interesting, but what worries me is that the drug as used today is unrefined and contains a lot more than just the useful pain-relieving chemicals. Don't you worry about the increasing evidence that cannabis smoke is even more carcinogenic than tobacco, or that regular cannabis use is increasingly connected with mental illness?

Well the advice from my consultant is that on balance I am at far less risk from the relatively low amount I use not least when compared with the alternative prescription drugs I would be using otherwise.

Don't forget there is about 3000 years of experience behind the use of cannabis as a herbal remedy and less than 10 for most common pain killers in use today.

As always it is a case of balance and even over use of water can cause serious health issues too.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Graham

Why do people drink alcohol?

(Actually that's more or less a serious question, since I've never drunk it)

I've never really understood either.
I have much more fun sober than I do drunk.
I rarely drink because I it goes to my head quickly.
I can only assume that these people who think it's fun to get totally bladdered do it so that they can use the alcohol as an excuse for uncivilised behaviour.

I fail to see how being drunk or stoned is enjoyment.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Sociable

Well the advice from my consultant is that on balance I am at far less risk from the relatively low amount I use not least when compared with the alternative prescription drugs I would be using otherwise.

Don't forget there is about 3000 years of experience behind the use of cannabis as a herbal remedy and less than 10 for most common pain killers in use today.

As always it is a case of balance and even over use of water can cause serious health issues too.

Yes but there's been several hundred years of bleeding being used to treat man's ills, but today we know it's not really effective.
The 3000 years consists of "here mate, smoke this, you won't care about your pain" whereas the 10 years for common pain killers consits of indepth medical trials and development.
Who/what is your consultant btw?

Originally Posted by danielf

I speak from experience when I say it does exactly the opposite. But maybe it depends on what you're trying to focus on

I haven't touched the stuff in the last 10 years (and feel no desire to), but I do think the reclassification is a good thing. I consider it on a par with alcohol, which can wreak havoc, but is considered socially acceptable.

I agree that alcohol can be worse than Cannabis, I am going to take a leap of faith here and declare that I have 'done' both since I was 15, I have also 'experimented' with lsd, cocaine, amphetamine, opium - and their derivatives - do 'mandies' still 'make you randy'?

ok - best advice is 'don't do it' - but - ? - I'm drinkin'?

[Sociable]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Yes but there's been several hundred years of bleeding being used to treat man's ills, but today we know it's not really effective.
The 3000 years consists of "here mate, smoke this, you won't care about your pain" whereas the 10 years for common pain killers consits of indepth medical trials and development.
Who/what is your consultant btw?

Sorry but the content of your post justifies no more than that as a response.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Sociable

Sorry but the content of your post justifies no more than that as a response.

So for the past 3000 years, herbalists haven't just been giving it to people, they have been conducting scientific tests into the workings or MJ and its physiological affects on the human body and mental state then?
Wow! After 3000 years you'd think we'd therefore know everything about MJ that there is to know, it's exact chemical makup, what dose to take for period pains, what dose to take for MS, how to extract the pain killing component without having to take the stoning component...

Originally Posted by Xaccers

So for the past 3000 years, herbalists haven't just been giving it to people, they have been conducting scientific tests into the workings or MJ and its physiological affects on the human body and mental state then?
Wow! After 3000 years you'd think we'd therefore know everything about MJ that there is to know, it's exact chemical makup, what dose to take for period pains, what dose to take for MS, how to extract the pain killing component without having to take the stoning component...

Well now I think you have neatly underlined why there has been so little research into cannabis by the chemical industries and health bods-scepticism.The thought always intrudes that old well known remedies can't be good because they have been in use for years.It's the 'old wives tales' but newer chemicals are much better because so much money has been spent on the research,dismissal theory.
Also pain is so subjective.How can you judge that one person's pain is really worse for one than for another?I suspect some people just have the physiological ability to shrug off pain that would fell another.This makes investigation difficult.

Incog.