I wonder why ???

[Stuartbe]

Why is it that if I go out now and kill someone I will do at least 10 years inside, yet if I was to kill a gog or puppy I would get a £100 fine and a slap on the wrist.......

I think that sucks big time.....

As part of my job I have to enter properties with the police and rspca. Some of the things that you see would turn your stomouch over. Why oh Why do these discusting blobs of **** get away with it ??

I think that the RSPCA should have the power of arrest ( like in the states ) and be able to bang these **** bags away for a long time.

[Kneebs]

I voted no they dont, but only because i think its the courts who should be given more power to send these *******s to jail, rather than just banning them from keepin animals. I think the way the system works at the minute where the RSPCA gather the evidence and present it for prosecution is about right (at least i think thats how it works).

EDIT - what is your job, btw ?

[Stuartbe]

Originally Posted by Kneebs

what is your job, btw ?

I am a self employed security engineer. Locks, alarms, safes, vaults, cctv, biometrics, computer security, tempest systems and the like... So I get around a bit

I think that the RSPCA should at least have the power of arrest. At the mo they need to bring the police with them.

I hear what you are saying about the courts but remember you are talking about a legal system that used to send joyriders to disneyland

[Russ]

The thing is, the law will only recognise animals as objects, hence when a dog is put down under instruction of a court, it's "destroyed".

[Stuartbe]

Originally Posted by Russ D

The thing is, the law will only recognise animals as objects, hence when a dog is put down under instruction of a court, it's "destroyed".

Dont you think that that stinks m8 - If a dog attacks someone it is for a reason and its usualy the owners fault !!!!

Originally Posted by stuartbe

Why is it that if I go out now and kill someone I will do at least 10 years inside, yet if I was to kill a gog or puppy I would get a £100 fine and a slap on the wrist.......

I think that sucks big time.....

As part of my job I have to enter properties with the police and rspca. Some of the things that you see would turn your stomouch over. Why oh Why do these discusting blobs of **** get away with it ??

I think that the RSPCA should have the power of arrest ( like in the states ) and be able to bang these **** bags away for a long time.

I agree, gog killers should go to jail for a very long time. Errr... what's a gog anyway?

Seriously, I think the RSPCA do a great job but already have the necessary powers. It's the courts that need more powers if animal cruelty is to be more severely punished - as I think it should be. I always find it odd that someone convicted of cruelty can be banned from keeping an animal for a number of years ... what, in all seriousness, are the chances of them treating an animal differently five years from now, if they are willing to starve it half to death and leave it quivering and beaten in a corner?

[ZrByte]

Originally Posted by stuartbe

Dont you think that that stinks m8 - If a dog attacks someone it is for a reason and its usualy the owners fault !!!!

Sadly though when a dog attacks it normally changes its mind state and the dog will not be safe to be around so regardless of whos fault it is the dog probably should be destroyed.
Just like humans though this is not always the case and I think an animal deserves a physcological examination before the destruction if the owner requests it.

Like the Towny and Kneebs though I think the courts do need more power rather than RSPCA staff, though te ability to arrest would save a lot of police time.

The problem with animal welfare at the moment is that there's very little that can be done in cases of cruelty.

Mostly the perpetrator is just fined or told that they're forbidden from eg keeping dogs for five years or some such, which is hardly beneficial to other animal's welfare or likely to encourage others to treat them better.

[Stuartbe]

Originally Posted by towny

I agree, gog killers should go to jail for a very long time. Errr... what's a gog anyway?

Seriously, I think the RSPCA do a great job but already have the necessary powers. It's the courts that need more powers if animal cruelty is to be more severely punished - as I think it should be. I always find it odd that someone convicted of cruelty can be banned from keeping an animal for a number of years ... what, in all seriousness, are the chances of them treating an animal differently five years from now, if they are willing to starve it half to death and leave it quivering and beaten in a corner?

I meant dog m8 - but you knew that

I think that these people should be given the same treatment as the dog.... They would soon change there mind

The same goes for anyone mistreating an animal - If you had seen what I have you would not be able to sleep at night - Its horible !!!

[Kneebs]

Originally Posted by stuartbe

I meant dog m8 - but you knew that

I think that these people should be given the same treatment as the dog.... They would soon change there mind

The same goes for anyone mistreating an animal - If you had seen what I have you would not be able to sleep at night - Its horible !!!

We've always had a pet at home - mainly dogs, but a couple of cats too... I remember seeing one of the RSPCA's appeals for donations on tv, where it was showing you (acted out) animal cruelty - the poor dog cowering behind the sofa really struck a chord with me - what these poor animals must go through at the hands of these cowards beggars belief

[Stuartbe]

The system is totaly stupid at the moment. It can take an RSPCA officer over six months to prepare a case for court. When it does go to court the scumbad gets a small fine and a ban. Two weeks later the same officer is often back at the *******s house and the whole proccess repeats.....

[ic14]

The RSPCA do need to have more power...
It sickened me beore xmas when i read about these thugs (For want of a better word) who bought a hamster in a pet shop and strapped it to a firework...
They got nothing at all... no fine... nothing!

[MadGamer]

Originally Posted by ic14

The RSPCA do need to have more power...
It sickened me beore xmas when i read about these thugs (For want of a better word) who bought a hamster in a pet shop and strapped it to a firework...
They got nothing at all... no fine... nothing!

Thats SICK!!!!!!! Yet people see adverts about cruelty to animals on the TV. Don't they take any NOTICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stuartbe]

Originally Posted by ic14

The RSPCA do need to have more power...
It sickened me beore xmas when i read about these thugs (For want of a better word) who bought a hamster in a pet shop and strapped it to a firework...
They got nothing at all... no fine... nothing!

Perhaps they should have a air bomb attached to there testicles.....

I bet they will think twice then.....

Oh look - Killed a hamster I am realy hard PATHETIC !!

[Iago]

Giving the RSPCA more power is not a good idea. And yes he can bring in tabloid style stories that appeal to emotion but that is devoid of facts.

Also killing a human, A intellgent lifeform, is not the same as killing a animal so prison is not really a option (they are overfilled any-way).

I think they have enough power giving them more would be danagous. The fones should be higher if they can PROVE the act was millicous