24-01-2004, 15:36
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Re: Email and 1mbit line
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Originally Posted by threadbare
I've always been dubiuos of download mangers, how can they increase the speed of something that is finite? appart from setting the correct MTU size what do they do?
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from my experience they download from multiple sources so therefore maximising your bandwidth , as you say they cant really increase the maximum avaliable
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24-01-2004, 16:02
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Re: Email and 1mbit line
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Originally Posted by threadbare
I've always been dubious of download mangers, how can they increase the speed of something that is finite? appart from setting the correct MTU size what do they do?
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They do several things;
1. They open multiple connections to the file which can get round speed limits on a single connection.
2. They can resume an interrupted download at the point it stopped, thus saving the time of having to re-load stuff you already have.
3. Most will allow you to schedule a download you are not in a hurry for - so it will fetch it at a non busy time for instance.
They cannot give you more bandwidth than you already have, whatever they may claim.
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24-01-2004, 16:46
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Re: Email and 1mbit line
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Originally Posted by pem
They do several things;
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They cannot give you more bandwidth than you already have, whatever they may claim.
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thats what i thought - thanks for the additional info
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24-01-2004, 18:34
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Re: Email and 1mbit line
Prolly too late to be of use, but you can also do online speed tests. DSLReports.com has some that you can use to determine your max speed - so far they've always been spot-on for me.
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24-01-2004, 18:35
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Re: Email and 1mbit line
i wonder where maulder will go to get 1mb adsl?.........
anyways his first download on it should be a "learn to spell" type program.....
followed by a "how to win friends and influence them" type of program....
maybe when he upgraded on the website to GOLD he typed in OGLE or something and ntl have given him his very own personalised version of an upgrade that makes his 1mb connection slower than 600k.......
    
i myself downloaded some stuff last night and my download speed hit 1055k.....im well chuffed with ntl 1mb service.......
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26-01-2004, 09:30
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Re: Email and 1mbit line
I donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t blame Mauldor
for sounding a little Pi$$ed off, first reply he got was insulting his post, as it stand most post in this forum seem like they are argue between them selves more than ntl.
Sorry if this sound out of line but have a look for your self, half the time is spent picking faults with each others post not at all helping.
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26-01-2004, 09:36
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Re: Email and 1mbit line
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Originally Posted by jsatan
I donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t blame Mauldor
for sounding a little Pi$$ed off, for reply he got was insulting his post, as it stand most post in this forum seem like they are argue between them selves more than ntl.
Sorry if this sound out of line but have a look for your self, halve the time is spent picking faults with each others post not at all helping.
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now then , sit down and reread it from the beginning , he got a nice friendly welcome and then started giving attitude out  , as far as i am concerned all he wanted to do at the beginning was have a moan to get it off his chest
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26-01-2004, 09:39
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Re: Email and 1mbit line
yeah he got a nice welcome off you, but Mr.Moony's first post didnt sound nice at all, I think there needed to be a smillie in there,
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26-01-2004, 09:40
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Re: Email and 1mbit line
but do you not agree that he gave out a load of attitude and seemed to know all the answers anyway , it looked that way to me
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26-01-2004, 09:50
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Re: Email and 1mbit line
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but do you not agree that he gave out a load of attitude and seemed to know all the answers anyway , it looked that way to me 
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I agree paul - there was an I know it all atitude from the start.
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O.K. Lets start again. Forgive and forget !!
 to the site Mauldor. We seem to have have got off on the wrong foot. Now lets be freinds !!
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26-01-2004, 10:01
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Re: Email and 1mbit line
stress, lol.
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26-01-2004, 10:02
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Re: Email and 1mbit line
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I agree paul - there was an I know it all atitude from the start.
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O.K. Lets start again. Forgive and forget !!
 to the site Mauldor. We seem to have have got off on the wrong foot. Now lets be freinds !! 
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and that goes for me too , if you want to come back you can play with my toys  , nahhhhhhhh seriously , ppl only want to help so there is your offer if you want to take us up on it
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26-01-2004, 11:04
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Re: Email and 1mbit line
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Originally Posted by jsatan
yeah he got a nice welcome off you, but Mr.Moony's first post didnt sound nice at all, I think there needed to be a smillie in there,
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Yup, and that's why he is now suspended.
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26-01-2004, 11:05
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Re: Email and 1mbit line
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Yup, and that's why he is now suspended.
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ahhhhhhhhhh and i didnt know that
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26-01-2004, 11:15
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Re: Email and 1mbit line
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Originally Posted by pem
They do several things;
1. They open multiple connections to the file which can get round speed limits on a single connection.
2. They can resume an interrupted download at the point it stopped, thus saving the time of having to re-load stuff you already have.
3. Most will allow you to schedule a download you are not in a hurry for - so it will fetch it at a non busy time for instance.
They cannot give you more bandwidth than you already have, whatever they may claim.
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Don't they also prefetch the contents of the links off a page you are viewing so the page should be cached on your PC by the time you have clicked on the link.
Resuming interupted downloads is less of a benefit if you have cable/dsl and a semipermenant IP, its more a benefit for dial up AFAIK
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