for once i agree with extreme measures...

kronas · 23-01-2004, 00:42

a malaysian MP is asking the government, to hand out a 'public whipping' to those who are sentenced to death for child killing or child rape

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...977789,00.html

absoloutely 100% agree with this, its a tough measure even to have a death penalty but to inflict further punishment is a positive......

Bifta · 23-01-2004, 00:46

So you think they should be whipped before being killed? I think the death penalty is quite sufficient enough (though I'd much prefer to see people like this rehabilitated if possible)

Fawkes · 23-01-2004, 00:51

Public whipping has no place in a civilised society, child killers and rapists should go to prison for EVER and don't even think about replying saying its a deterrent.

kronas · 23-01-2004, 00:55

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

Public whipping has no place in a civilised society, child killers and rapists should go to prison for EVER and don't even think about replying saying its a deterrent.

true but its more about humiliation rather then being civilised.......

if your going down the civilised route, ask the people held at gunantanimo bay in atrocious conditions under 'possible' charges

Fawkes · 23-01-2004, 01:03

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true but its more about humiliation rather then being civilised.......

if your going down the civilised route, ask the people held at gunantanimo bay in atrocious conditions under 'possible' charges

The people being held at Guantanamo should be allowed access to legal council and put on trial but thats a whole other thread and I don't what to go there.

Bifta · 23-01-2004, 01:03

What kind of society do we live in where people get kicks out of seeing someone humiliated?

Fawkes · 23-01-2004, 01:07

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What kind of society do we live in where people get kicks out of seeing someone humiliated?

The peoples republic of daily mail readers?

kronas · 23-01-2004, 01:09

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What kind of society do we live in where people get kicks out of seeing someone humiliated?

i dont think its about people 'getting kicks out of it' its more of an excercise to put people off doing such gastly crimes.....

Bifta · 23-01-2004, 01:09

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The peoples republic of daily mail readers?

/Sun

Bifta · 23-01-2004, 01:10

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i dont think its about people 'getting kicks out of it' its more of an excercise to put people off doing such gastly crimes.....

And a public flogging is worse than being put to death how exactly?

kronas · 23-01-2004, 01:12

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And a public flogging is worse than being put to death how exactly?

i never said it was worse, but it is worse on the offender, he has to put up with the pain instead of a 'quick ending'

Fawkes · 23-01-2004, 01:15

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Originally Posted by kronas

i dont think its about people 'getting kicks out of it' its more of an excercise to put people off doing such gastly crimes.....

Are you really that naive, that you believe the kind of person that would kill or rape a child is going to be "put off" by public whipping anymore than a life time in prison?

kronas · 23-01-2004, 01:17

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Are you really that naive, that you believe the kind of person that would kill or rape a child is going to be "put off" by public whipping anymore than a life time in prison?

it may do, or it might not, not everyone is the same are they ?

people react in diffarent ways in diffarent circumstances.

Bifta · 23-01-2004, 01:19

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i never said it was worse, but it is worse on the offender, he has to put up with the pain instead of a 'quick ending'

Perhaps you could stop and think of the 'offenders' family, imagine what they would have to go through watching their son/daughter being humiliated publically in this way.

kronas · 23-01-2004, 01:26

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Perhaps you could stop and think of the 'offenders' family, imagine what they would have to go through watching their son/daughter being humiliated publically in this way.

the 'offender' has commited an act of what can be described as 'heanous' and 'disgusting' the person should be ashamed of themselves YOU should know what you are doing is wrong.

you do the crime, you pay for the consequences, family or no family.

a hardline approach is always needed, no use in 'beating around the bush'