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Fawkes · 15-01-2004, 19:47

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ntlhome Internet service - Baguley area
ntlhome broadband customers customers in the Baguley, Withington, Stretford, Macclesfield, Wilmslow, Stoke, Bromborough, Warrington, Runcorn and Birkenhead areas may experience a degraded internet service at present due to a technical fault.

Our engineers are aware and are working towards a resolution as soon as possible.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenince this may cause.

Now that was quick!

Didn't they remove them from Manchester in the first place because they couldn't get them to work with the CWC setup?

threadbare · 15-01-2004, 20:11

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Originally Posted by altis

Curiously, neither of these two work for me:
http://www.all-nettools.com/pr.htm (just hangs)
http://www.broadband-help.com/cm_diagnose.asp?init=1 (reports cache IP as mine!)

but this one does:
http://www.nthellworld.co.uk/?page=proxy (but reports a different cache!)

3rd site reports different cache because different caches within proxy cluster cache different websites based on the IP addy of the site. this is determined by WCCP which is more often than not the actual problem

DivideByZero · 15-01-2004, 22:47

The status page says this is now fixed, but no, it isn't. I'm still getting lots of "Connection reset by peer" messages from many websites.
Why are they once again forcing us to use these proxies? An option to disable it would be nice.

BBKing · 16-01-2004, 07:34

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80.5.164.9

This resolves as oldh-t2cam1-a-ge94.inet.ntl.com, so is actually Oldham CAM, not Baguley POP.

Manchester was split into two parts over a year ago. There are four caches in one half and ten in the other, for some reason. Interestingly all the sites mentioned in the server status report are in the four-cache half, however I've no idea if they've actually been turned on. Can anyone actually confirm that a proxy checker shows a transparent proxy working in their area?

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Didn't they remove them from Manchester in the first place because they couldn't get them to work with the CWC setup?

Nope. I know why, but it wasn't that.

iadom · 16-01-2004, 07:44

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Originally Posted by BBKing

This resolves as oldh-t2cam1-a-ge94.inet.ntl.com, so is actually Oldham CAM, not Baguley POP.

Manchester was split into two parts over a year ago. There are four caches in one half and ten in the other, for some reason. Interestingly all the sites mentioned in the server status report are in the four-cache half, however I've no idea if they've actually been turned on. Can anyone actually confirm that a proxy checker shows a transparent proxy working in their area?

Nope. I know why, but it wasn't that.

Sorry, you are of course correct..I was reading the network and not the node name

.Definately no proxies detected here on any of the three links in the post from Altis.

DivideByZero · 16-01-2004, 08:34

$ host 80.5.160.6
6.160.5.80.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer cache3-bagu.server.ntli.net.

This is what all my HTTP requests are now going through.
nthellworld is about the only site I can reach now. Thanks for ruining things again NTL!

altis · 16-01-2004, 09:15

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Originally Posted by BBKing

Can anyone actually confirm that a proxy checker shows a transparent proxy working in their area?

This do ya? (SACM with no manual proxy selected)

rdhw · 16-01-2004, 09:33

[QUOTE=altisThis do ya? (SACM with no manual proxy selected)[/QUOTE]That site clearly has been tripped up by NTL's breach of the RFCs for HTTP. The RFCs say that proxies must insert a Via header, but the NTL NetApp proxies omit the Via header, but do insert an X_Forwarded_For header, so that a better coded site can detect the browser's IP address. A helpful page for debugging is http://tools.blueyonder.co.uk/browse.phtml, which displays all your browser's HTTP headers, not just the ones a site thinks you might be interested in seeing.

Nevertheless, your post does appear to show that the Baguley proxies are back!

altis · 16-01-2004, 09:42

There you go

rdhw · 16-01-2004, 10:26

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Originally Posted by altis

There you go

Yes, definitely proxied, and presumably the X-Forwarded-For showed your true IP address. The absence of the Via header is a breach of RFC by NTL's proxy server.

altis · 16-01-2004, 10:35

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Originally Posted by rdhw

... and presumably the X-Forwarded-For showed your true IP address.

Indeed it did. For clarification, I've now altered the image linked above.

etccarmageddon · 16-01-2004, 10:38

same problem here in baguley - buggered up surfing on various sites - I assume someone decided to reinstate the proxies?

(mine also shows x-forwarded on it)

example site that doesnt work .... http://www.expansys.com

and carphonewarehouse has just started working!

Rone · 16-01-2004, 11:50

Mines the same, but sometimes a site will work then stop working 10 minutes later, etc etc.
A lot of sites are dead slow, so theres either a knot in a cable somewhere or somethings wrong.

etccarmageddon · 16-01-2004, 12:04

mine's working now - that site now working plus another I had problems with.

LynneC · 16-01-2004, 12:32

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Originally Posted by th'engineer

Thanks BBK thought they took em down south to assist the proxies out down there.

I'm in Warrington and I've been having problems today. The email is very slow, and I'm getting far fewer emails than usual. The browser is refusing to connect me to several sites (I've tried different browsers, and since we have more than one computer here, not networked except through the router, I've tried the other computers too).
Here's an addy I know is there and up, but I'm getting no page to display for it:
www.likesbooks.com
(there are others, but I haven't made a note of them).
I can't get links I click on from my email. (links in message).
What I really need to know is what is going on and when it will be fixed?
I'm on cable, with a broadband connection.