02-07-2018, 10:21
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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The only way round I could see would be if the UK offered to pay a substantial access fee.
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In which case it would probably be better to trade under WTO rules.
It's not Free trade if we're paying a "substantial access fee".
The new Customs system will, for the most part, be ready by January 2019 should we leave with a no deal.
https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/up...ess-update.pdf
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02-07-2018, 10:57
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Rees-Mogg’s insolence @Telegraph in lecturing & threatening PM is just too much. Risks debasing govt, party, country & himself. PM must be given maximum latitude & backing. The ideological right are a minority despite their noise & should pipe down. #totalsupportforMay&UK
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02-07-2018, 11:01
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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Lol, it was recent analysis by HMRC. Project Fear was 2016 not 2018! [Seph]: Yes. HMRC extending Project Fear by disregarding how that added burden could be ameliorated.
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Front page of The Times says we'll most likely go for a Norwegian style deal unless Theresa May is overthrown by hard-line Brexiters. Unicorn-style deals have been ruled out by the EU. Fingers crossed she'll stay in power if this is accurate.  |
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02-07-2018, 11:14
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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exactly Den he (Rees-Mogg) saying screw normal people I gonna make money out of it
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and this is different to any politician over the last century in what way?
They all screw the commoner to enrich their own lives, look upon it as a 'legal' form of insider trading 
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02-07-2018, 11:54
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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and this is different to any politician over the last century in what way?
They all screw the commoner to enrich their own lives, look upon it as a 'legal' form of insider trading |
But us the commoners were told that there would be a severe crackdown on "insider trading" .
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02-07-2018, 14:08
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Posts like this are not helpful, in this new thread, this is being provocative and just contributes to cause a further “toxic them vs. Us” discussion.
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It's official, though I never had any doubt, our former coward of a PM, "Colluded" with U.S President Obama in 2016, to stop Brexit by blackmail with the back of Queue for trade threat....
What's the Russian word for "Hypocrites". ?
Лицемеры !!! 
https://news.sky.com/story/cameron-p...rning-11423669
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02-07-2018, 14:09
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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Posts like this are not helpful, in this new thread, this is being provocative and just contributes to cause a further “toxic them vs. Us” discussion.
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delete post please was not intended to be provocative at all sorry if it seemed that way
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02-07-2018, 14:30
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delete post please was not intended to be provocative at all sorry if it seemed that way
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Done and thank you.
I am not being picky - I really want us to all try to move away from them and us in this thread.
I am really tired of the division. We need to try to stop being so divided on both sides.
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02-07-2018, 14:58
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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Done and thank you.
I am not being picky - I really want us to all try to move away from them and us in this thread.
I am really tired of the division. We need to try to stop being so divided on both sides.
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no worries Mick and I don't want to be provocative no intent too be at all we all hope the government can stop fighting and agree and get a deal as no deal will be very bad indeed
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02-07-2018, 15:08
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Only people keen on this idea are those who have everything and those who have nothing. The average hardworking family gets to pay for it all.  |
I have yet to be convinced that we will be worse off post Brexit, Andrew. If we get to improve our ability to trade, we will be better off.
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02-07-2018, 15:11
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I have yet to be convinced that we will be worse off post Brexit, Andrew. If we get to improve our ability to trade, we will be better off.
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OB the government wanted to deny the studies existed because it shows no matter what deal we worse off business saying we will be worse off it a question of how worse off we be
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02-07-2018, 15:29
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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OB the government wanted to deny the studies existed because it shows no matter what deal we worse off business saying we will be worse off it a question of how worse off we be
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Only a eternal optimist believes we won't be worse off as one does not have to be Einstein to work out that there will be financial pain.
https://uk.webfg.com/news/news-and-a...--3103564.html
http://uk.businessinsider.com/leaked...rse-off-2018-1
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02-07-2018, 15:36
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Re: Brexit Discussion (New thread-Follow First Post Rules!)
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OB the government wanted to deny the studies existed because it shows no matter what deal we worse off business saying we will be worse off it a question of how worse off we be
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I know, Dave, but do you really believe all these forecasts? They have been wrong almost every time because they are based on assumptions. They may give too much or too little weight to those assumptions, and it may well be that other factors kick in which are bigger factors than those assumptions. Or the assumptions might just be wrong.
Just ask yourself how more trade can make us poorer. You have to go along with that negative attitude so many people have to believe that trade will suffer to the degree that this will be the disaster they point to. The EU will still want to export to us, won't they? Look at the size of that trade surplus!
The impact any tariffs likely to be applied to our exports to the EU would be fairly marginal, and easily made up for by our ability to forge new trade deals. And if, as speculated by some, we decide to apply no tariffs, that will reduce the price of goods coming in (competing with EU goods) and reduce EU exports to us (thereby damaging the EU).
This is not a one way street when we look at the implications of Brexit. A no deal will hurt both sides, but we will come out of it better thanks to all our new trading partners.
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02-07-2018, 15:44
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we see what next weekend brings if government can agree anything my fear they cant but we know more by then
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02-07-2018, 15:49
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we see what next weekend brings if government can agree anything my fear they cant but we know more by then
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I have no doubt they will agree. Remember, this is a show.
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