30-10-2018, 17:24
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Carth
We're a few years late in putting a halt to that  |
Plenty of cheap tacky products all around us.
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30-10-2018, 17:32
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Damien
Considering you seem to think Germany inherently want to run everything and the Irish can't be trusted I suspect this isn't the case.
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I regret that your head is in the sand. Read what the papers are saying today about Merkel and here "dominance" of the political scene in Europe. Also you mustn't ignore how the Euro exchange rate against the DM was rigged to their advantage.
As to Varadka - think about it. The GFA doesn't mention the border, but the GFA is what the EU keeps going on about. What other motive can there be for insisting that we remain in the CU other than to protect Irish exports to their largest market. It stares you in the face except when your head is in the sand.
For Chrissake.
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30-10-2018, 17:53
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Angua
At least we currently do not have hormone riddled beef and old slimy chicken chlorine washed to remove this.
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Nobody would be forcing you to eat it even if it was available in our shops.
The Yanks seem to do all right on it.
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30-10-2018, 18:01
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Nobody would be forcing you to eat it even if it was available in our shops.
The Yanks seem to do all right on it.
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And they can keep it as l personally would pay a little bit more for something where l knew where it was coming from.
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30-10-2018, 18:12
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Nobody would be forcing you to eat it even if it was available in our shops.
The Yanks seem to do all right on it.
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I'd be happy to eat it. Here are the full facts:
https://fullfact.org/europe/does-eu-...nsed-chlorine/
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30-10-2018, 18:13
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by denphone
And they can keep it as l personally would pay a little bit more for something where l knew where it was coming from.
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It's coming from cattle and chickens, Den. 
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30-10-2018, 20:33
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
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It's used when poultry is kept in poor, intensive battery farm conditions. For that reason, I'm out as I'm a strong believer in good animal welfare.
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Plenty of cheap tacky products all around us.
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Enough about my posts, Den.
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I do hope they're wrong about this but hopefully MPs won't be daft enough to countenance no-deal anyway.
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A NO-DEAL Brexit would spark a recession as long as the downturn that followed the 2008 global financial crisis, credit ratings agency Standard and Poor's has warned.
While its base case was that London and Brussels would agree a Brexit deal ahead of the March 2019 deadline, the risk of a no-deal had now become large enough to take into consideration in assessing Britain's creditworthiness, S&P said.
Talks on Britain’s departure from the European Union have stalled over how to prevent a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic.
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https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...sion-warns-sp/
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30-10-2018, 21:33
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
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I would eat it i don't see the problem given my tap water tastes like Domestos because guess what's in it.
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31-10-2018, 06:44
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Nobody would be forcing you to eat it even if it was available in our shops.
The Yanks seem to do all right on it.
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As chlorine washing is a process, you would never know to be able to choose to avoid it.
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31-10-2018, 07:38
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Angua
As chlorine washing is a process, you would never know to be able to choose to avoid it.
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That would be obvious from looking at the country of origin on the label.
And if you would not know the difference, as you claim, this rather takes away the argument against chlorinated chicken.
It may be possible to insist on standards of care in any trade deal negotiated, which I think is the real issue here. The quality of a product that is covered by a trade deal can be specified, and I think that should be explored.
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31-10-2018, 12:27
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
That would be obvious from looking at the country of origin on the label.
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Difficult/impossible when in pre-cooked meals, take-aways, cafes, restaurants or someone else's house!
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31-10-2018, 12:39
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
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Just add, the conclusion from this article was that there *is* an EU ban on poultry treated with chlorinated water:
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The European Food Safety Authority has said that there are “no safety concerns” with the chlorination of chicken, but it has also said this practice might not be sufficient for maintaining good hygiene standards throughout the slaughter process.
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The latest update I could find on the EU Ban is this:
Chlorinated chicken: possible end to import ban meets opposition
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MEPs in the Environment Committee raised strong concerns on Wednesday about moves within the European Commission to lift the EU-import ban on poultry treated with chlorinated water. This ban, in place since 1997, has effectively stopped all imports of United States poultry meat which is generally treated by this process. MEPs speaking in the committee said the chlorination of chicken intended for human consumption is not acceptable for the EU.
A Commission representative told the committee that the subject was on the agenda for today’s (Wednesday’s) meeting of the Commissioners. The proposal before them is for a temporarily authorisation of 2 years for the import of chickens intended for human consumption which have undergone chlorination, but with special provisions including a labelling requirement. The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) has recently adopted an opinion dismissing risks from treating poultry carcases with chlorinated water.
MEPs in the committee put a question to the Commission (under Rule 187 of the Rules of Procedure), drawn up by Anne Ferreira (PES, FR), asking the Commission what action it intends to take further to the EFSA opinion. Does the Commission not see such food production methods are at variance with the relevant Community standards, and threatening to the EU’s entire set of food production standards and rules, ask the MEPs.
According to Ms Ferreira, lifting the ban would be "totally absurd". She was supported by John Bowis (EPP-ED, UK), who said it would be "outrageous" and unacceptable, and degrade EU citizens to the status of guinea pigs. Bart Staes (Greens/EFA, BE) said the results of the chlorination of chicken within the US have been dreadful. Dimitrios Papadimoulis (GUE/NGL, EL) stressed that the Commission cannot ignore EU consumers.
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31-10-2018, 14:01
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Re: Brexit
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31-10-2018, 14:13
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Re: Brexit
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woo hooo
https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may...on-brexit-deal
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31-10-2018, 14:22
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Re: Brexit
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Originally Posted by Hugh
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bless
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