Coronavirus

Originally Posted by Carth

Nobody to staff them, apparently 1/3 of NHS on sick or self isolating

Originally Posted by Carth

Aren't 60% of those pen pushers?

Any more figures you'd like to make up?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I don't know whether he's i) too weak-minded to have forgotten about staffing or ii) he judges that his followers are, and they won't have worked it out.

Neither is a good look.

[nomadking]

How many of the Nightingale hospitals are for Covid patients directly?
Link

This time, NHS Nightingale Hospital North West will act as a step-down facility for patients without covid-19 discharged from general and surgical wards to free up beds. It will house patients awaiting social care assessments and provide support and rehabilitation services to free up beds in acute hospitals. In the summer, day room facilities at the Nightingale were expanded, and a kitchen for use in the rehabilitation and enablement of patients has been installed.

In the main, only lower level staff needed, not ICU experts.

Originally Posted by Carth

Aren't 60% of those pen pushers?

There is no precise figure for the number of healthcare workers in the NHS. The best estimate appears to be somewhere between 600,000 and 800,000, which would include all doctors, nurses and healthcare support staff.

https://www.hsj.co.uk/exclusive-deat...027471.article

King's Fund do a reasonable breakdown.

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/project...MaAgE-EALw_wcB

They estimate it around 210k out of 1.4 million FTE for the UK, so around 15%

[nomadking]

Link

The number of nurses in the NHS in England increased by 14,813 compared to last year, and the number of doctors rose by 6,257 to a record 121,726, figures published today up until the end of August show.
Quarterly vacancy statistics also published today show the number of overall NHS vacancies has decreased since last year by over 18,500 (17.5%), with the number of nursing and midwifery vacancies falling by over 15%.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Any more figures you'd like to make up?

Just following the mainstream regarding made up figures

Take that any way you want

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

Just following the mainstream regarding made up figures

Take that any way you want

I'm not sure of which made-up figures in particular you're refering to.

I see a poacher-turned-gamekeeper situation in play here. After years of Michael Gove & Co telling us they've had enough of experts and preaching "Project Fear" at independent assessments of Brexit scenarios, it must be harder for them to flip roles and say "listen to the experts on Coronaviris or X number of lives will be lost."

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I'm not sure of which made-up figures in particular you're refering to.

Pick some figures, any figures.

The only 'proof' of them are what they tell you, and one minute everyone's a liar and con artist, next minute they're honest as the day is long . . I guess it's all a matter of taste

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

Pick some figures, any figures.

The only 'proof' of them are what they tell you, and one minute everyone's a liar and con artist, next minute they're honest as the day is long . . I guess it's all a matter of taste

Andrew will follow the flock.....

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I'm not sure of which made-up figures in particular you're refering to.

I see a poacher-turned-gamekeeper situation in play here. After years of Michael Gove & Co telling us they've had enough of experts and preaching "Project Fear" at independent assessments of Brexit scenarios, it must be harder for them to flip roles and say "listen to the experts on Coronaviris or X number of lives will be lost."

Originally Posted by Carth

Pick some figures, any figures.

The only 'proof' of them are what they tell you, and one minute everyone's a liar and con artist, next minute they're honest as the day is long . . I guess it's all a matter of taste

So that’s a solid "no", then?

On the bright side (well, for me, anyway), if I should be unfortunate enough to catch (apparently non-existent, fake) COVID, I will have access to the Regeneron monoclonal antibody cocktail, as my brother in law works for them, and they have granted access to immediate family and their spouses/children (the way it works medically is that if you get symptoms/contract the virus, it will prevent you getting serious disease/ICU/ventilation/death...., it is not a vaccine that will prevent you getting infected).

[Sephiroth]

The only privilege I have is Waitrose in Wokingham..

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

if I should be unfortunate enough to catch (apparently non-existent, fake)

You may have had it already ?

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

On the bright side (well, for me, anyway), if I should be unfortunate enough to catch (apparently non-existent, fake) COVID . . .

No idea who's saying it's 'apparently non-existent, fake' . . . unless you're taking it from my post?

In which case it shows that different people get different meanings from the same 'data'

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

No idea who's saying it's 'apparently non-existent, fake' . . . unless you're taking it from my post?

In which case it shows that different people get different meanings from the same 'data'

You've invoked the woke