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Mr K · 18-10-2021, 20:43

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Bless…

After, the PM is renowned for his veracity and adherence to the rules…

I think that's the only reason he's kept the current job ( unlike all the others he's been sacked from for telling porky pies). Lying is one of the core competences of the post.

Pierre · 18-10-2021, 23:25

Just watching a report on BBC 10:00 news about the increase in COVID deaths, very worrying and when you look at the initial graph on the government website it looks like a significant upturn.

But the graphs on death data seem to tell a different tale? No upturn in any of those……

jfman · 18-10-2021, 23:30

It’s called scale.

Pierre · 19-10-2021, 00:09

3 charts going down = 1 chart going up. Regardless of “scale” they should still show an upward inflection.

1andrew1 · 19-10-2021, 00:15

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Originally Posted by Pierre

3 charts going down = 1 chart going up. Regardless of “scale” they should still show an upward inflection.

If you look at the graphs on the government website cited on those graphs, you can see the upward trajectory in deaths. The graphs you're looking at go back 18 months and are too small to show this.

jfman · 19-10-2021, 00:51

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Originally Posted by Pierre

3 charts going down = 1 chart going up. Regardless of “scale” they should still show an upward inflection.

Using the 7 day average it’s the same graph as the middle of the three you’ve taken from the Government website, covering a shorter time period and displaying against a different scale. The purpose of a 7 day average is to even out peaks and troughs that arise around weekends as fewer deaths get reported and it catches up in subsequent days.

The two other graphs measure something different - by date of death not date reported. These will always drop off towards the end because of the administrative delays in recording dates of death. That’s specifically why the portion most to the right is grey because it is considered incomplete.

This is all semantics really, as I’m sure it’s been covered numerous times, as they’re still dead.

Edit: https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...&postcount=872

Nomadking explains here - now if you go back and look at the figures for the start of November they’ll have caught up/evened out. The plateau comes later in the month than you suggested.

**Paul** · 19-10-2021, 03:57

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The comparison is to the UK's peers in Western Europe.

You made no such statement, again, read what you actually posted.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

If people are living in poverty then their access to private transport etc may be reduced thus increasing their chances of infection or they have to be live in a multi-generational household, again thereby increasing their chances of infection.

LOL, Your just making this up as you go.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I mean, who cares?

For once Im in agreement, this is just totally "who gives a f++k" what they did last xmas day, I'm quite sure the rules were broken right across the country.

**Hugh** · 19-10-2021, 11:27

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Except….

https://metro.co.uk/2021/10/18/boris...tmas-15443718/

Gotcha!

Except…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...re-bubble.html

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A Cabinet minister today confirmed that Boris Johnson and his wife Carrie did have a friend stay with them last Christmas as part of a 'childcare bubble'.

Anne-Marie Trevelyan, the International Trade Secretary, said Nimco Ali was at Number 10 over the festive period 'to help support and look after' the Johnsons' son, Wilfred.

Except…

**Chris** · 19-10-2021, 11:52

I suspect the Prime Minister can make an argument for being ‘not present’ even if technically in the building …

jfman · 19-10-2021, 11:53

Can Carrie?

1andrew1 · 19-10-2021, 12:00

I wonder if this will trigger Plan B?

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COVID news live: UK 'heading for another coronavirus wave that could be as serious as last' - with daily cases highest in world

Coronavirus latest as UK daily cases near 50,000 and are highest since mid-July; former chief scientific adviser Sir David King says winter COVID peak "could be as serious as the last"; booster jab rollout said to be going "extremely slowly".

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-sky...-rise-12431158

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Originally Posted by Paul

You made no such statement, again, read what you actually posted.

I quoted from someone's Tweets on twitter. Given the limited character space, context is everything. I'm sorry for any confusion.

**Chris** · 19-10-2021, 12:03

I find it useful to assume that nothing worth saying is ever said on Twatter.

Carth · 19-10-2021, 12:05

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Originally Posted by jfman

Can Carrie?

I believe she had gone out delivering food parcels, winter clothing, and thick fleece blankets to all the homeless people in the area . . . although I may be mistaken

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Originally Posted by Chris

I find it useful to assume that nothing worth saying is ever said on Twatter.

papa smurf · 19-10-2021, 12:23

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Originally Posted by Carth

I believe she had gone out delivering food parcels, winter clothing, and thick fleece blankets to all the homeless people in the area . . . although I may be mistaken

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Should have put the rug rat in the pram and took it with her like normal people do then.

sounds to me like they have abused the system.

1andrew1 · 19-10-2021, 12:56

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Originally Posted by Chris

I find it useful to assume that nothing worth saying is ever said on Twatter.

If depends on the poster. If it's just a random, I would be inclined to agree with you. If it's a reputable journalist - as in this instance - I wouldn't. To me, it's more rhe person than the platform.