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Pierre · 05-03-2021, 20:39

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Isn't that what a visa is?

No.

A visa is issued by the destination state usually describing the terms of your visit. The U.K. Gov doesn’t issue a visa for me to visit India, the Government does.

The U.K. government issues me with a Passport and I make my own decision on where to go and when, within the boundaries of the law.

jfman · 05-03-2021, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Whilst I prefer you to leave me alone, that was quite funny.

you're one of the good guys, Seph.

jonbxx · 05-03-2021, 21:52

I would imagine most people travelling from the UK would need to have documentation showing their trip is necessary anyway. Certainly my work colleagues need it to travel across Europe and come back without quarantine/self isolation. They have to fill in an online form to get a letter from our work so it's just one more form to fill out.

1andrew1 · 07-03-2021, 12:17

Looks like the US's lengthy process in approving the AstraZeneca vaccine could work to the advantage of the EU. They're in talks to permit supplies of the AstraZeneca vaccine to be exported from the US. A bit cheeky considering the EU was happy to let Italy bloc exports to Australia.

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The EU will urge the US to permit the export of millions of doses of AstraZeneca’s Covid-19 vaccine to Europe as Brussels scrambles to bridge supply shortfalls that have hobbled its inoculation drive.

The European Commission plans to raise the matter in forthcoming transatlantic discussions aimed at boosting collaboration on the fight against Covid-19, EU officials said.

The EU also wants Washington to ensure the free flow of shipments of crucial vaccine ingredients needed in European production, including for groundbreaking mRNA technology vaccines.

The European push to access US production of the AstraZeneca jab — which was made in collaboration with Oxford university — comes as the company battles to meet first-quarter 2021 EU delivery targets already slashed because of production problems in the bloc.

AstraZeneca has also said it intends to source half of its planned second-quarter supply to the EU from elsewhere in the world.

The European Commission told the Financial Times: “We trust that we can work together with the US to ensure that vaccines produced or bottled in the US for the fulfilment of vaccine producers’ contractual obligations with the EU will be fully honoured.”

https://www.ft.com/content/e4aaf7a8-...9-4cd069a9dbf2

Julian · 07-03-2021, 22:09

Fans of a football club in glasgow prove themselves to be selfish, thick and complete assholes

You really hope they all get covid and suffer.

IDIOTS

Mad Max · 08-03-2021, 01:20

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Originally Posted by Julian

Fans of a football club in glasgow prove themselves to be selfish, thick and complete assholes

You really hope they all get covid and suffer.

IDIOTS

It's happened to both of the big clubs in Glasgow recently, you also seem to forget that Liverpool fans did exactly this last season when they won the EPL, did you post a comment about that? Just asking.

RichardCoulter · 08-03-2021, 02:06

Should we and other countries vaccinate those in poor countries? None of us is safe until we are all safe, unless we completely close our borders.

An interesting question posed by this mornings Hardtalk programme:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000t3l0

pip08456 · 08-03-2021, 03:03

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Should we and other countries vaccinate those in poor countries? None of us is safe until we are all safe, unless we completely close our borders.

An interesting question posed by this mornings Hardtalk programme:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000t3l0

Do these people go around with their heads in the sand? Have they never heard of COVAX and the WHO?

Published 19th Feb

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Commitments made at today’s Virtual G7 leaders meeting hosted by UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson, and at the Munich Security Conference later in the day, signaled significant progress in the global response to the COVID-19 pandemic with an important underscoring of the need for global equity in access to test, treatments, and vaccines.

Leaders recognised that no country can be safe until every country is safe and collectively committed over US $4.3 billion to the ACT Accelerator partnership to develop and distribute effective tests, treatments, and vaccines around the world.

Also

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The UK’s commitment to share vaccine surplus with developing countries is also welcomed and joins similar commitments made by Canada, France, Norway and the European Union.

https://www.who.int/news/item/19-02-...ccines-in-2021

**Paul** · 08-03-2021, 03:34

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

It's happened to both of the big clubs in Glasgow recently, you also seem to forget that Liverpool fans did exactly this last season when they won the EPL, did you post a comment about that? Just asking.

Being outside reduces the likelyhood of any spread.

I see they always trot out the "lives at risk" excuse (when it suits) - its a very small risk, and one we have been happy to accept in previous years without blinking.

Also, strange how all those BLM [and other] protests last year were not condemmed the same way ....

jfman · 08-03-2021, 04:32

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Should we and other countries vaccinate those in poor countries? None of us is safe until we are all safe, unless we completely close our borders.

An interesting question posed by this mornings Hardtalk programme:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000t3l0

It’s not really “an interesting question” - it shouldn’t be a question at all. Hundreds of billions is put forward globally as international aid. It’d be quite a poor method of spending it to allow a global pandemic to rage in developing nations.

Sephiroth · 08-03-2021, 10:05

If only they were developing nations that weren’t lining the pockets of their top politicians. My father-in-law left Tanganyika with fresh water facilities in a number of tribal areas. Now it’s £3/month wanted to bring them fresh water.

In NZ he managed two hydro-electric plants that are still running and which I’ve visited.

jfman · 08-03-2021, 10:41

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

If only they were developing nations that weren’t lining the pockets of their top politicians. My father-in-law left Tanganyika with fresh water facilities in a number of tribal areas. Now it’s £3/month wanted to bring them fresh water.

In NZ he managed two hydro-electric plants that are still running and which I’ve visited.

That's certainly a strong argument for the developed nations taking more control of vaccination programmes through UN/other bodies.

Mad Max · 08-03-2021, 11:07

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Originally Posted by Paul

Being outside reduces the likelyhood of any spread.

I see they always trot out the "lives at risk" excuse (when it suits) - its a very small risk, and one we have been happy to accept in previous years without blinking.

Also, strange how all those BLM [and other] protests last year were not condemmed the same way ....

Well said, and spot on.

**Hugh** · 08-03-2021, 11:13

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Originally Posted by Paul

Being outside reduces the likelyhood of any spread.

I see they always trot out the "lives at risk" excuse (when it suits) - its a very small risk, and one we have been happy to accept in previous years without blinking.

Also, strange how all those BLM [and other] protests last year were not condemmed the same way ....

But not in crowds outside - close proximity for a longer period of time to lots of people increases the risk; it’s completely different from passing someone in the street.

In previous years we didn’t have a world-wide pandemic (except for last year), and the BLM protestors were equally in the wrong.

spiderplant · 08-03-2021, 12:28

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

Well said, and spot on.

Selective memories?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-protests.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-matt-hancock