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Pierre · 17-01-2021, 14:01

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Originally Posted by pip08456

When JHB went to Antigua, anyone else from the UK could also. It wasn't an exception using different rules.

Tennis players entering Australia was an exception to the rules.

I understand that, and Piers Morgan and many more jetted off. But it smells a bit eggy doesn’t it.

Plus I read, perhaps mistakenly, that she was putting forward the view that the pandemic hurts The poorest most, which it undoubtedly does, but you can’t claim solidarity with poor and then escape to the Caribbean.

pip08456 · 17-01-2021, 15:11

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Originally Posted by Pierre

I understand that, and Piers Morgan and many more jetted off. But it smells a bit eggy doesn’t it.

Plus I read, perhaps mistakenly, that she was putting forward the view that the pandemic hurts The poorest most, which it undoubtedly does, but you can’t claim solidarity with poor and then escape to the Caribbean.

Anyone could jet off at the same time, what has eggs got to do with it?

Do we have a new rule where if you have the view the pandemic hurts the poorest most you can't go on holiday?

Pierre · 17-01-2021, 15:24

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Anyone could jet off at the same time, what has eggs got to do with it?

Do we have a new rule where if you have the view the pandemic hurts the poorest most you can't go on holiday?

I’m talking solely in the context of the two JHB tweets, and I know they were Australian tennis players, but even I can see just a hint of hypocrisy between the two posts.

It’s the perception that matters.

Anyway, it’s a small thing that I really couldn’t be arsed getting into debate about it.

jfman · 17-01-2021, 18:29

I wonder if Julia will be as vocal when the Champions League has football teams flying all round Europe next month.

pip08456 · 17-01-2021, 19:55

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I wonder if Julia will be as vocal when the Champions League has football teams flying all round Europe next month.

What has that got to do with Australia?

Pierre · 17-01-2021, 21:31

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Originally Posted by pip08456

What has that got to do with Australia?

Nothing, what’s your point?

pip08456 · 17-01-2021, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Nothing, what’s your point?

There is no comparison between Australia bending the rules which are preventing Austrailians returning home for over 1000 tennis players & their entourage and football in Europe.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-55683035

Pierre · 17-01-2021, 22:18

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Originally Posted by pip08456

There is no comparison between Australia bending the rules which are preventing Austrailians returning home for over 1000 tennis players & their entourage and football in Europe.

Why not?

pip08456 · 17-01-2021, 22:19

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Why not?

See link I added to previous post.

jfman · 17-01-2021, 22:45

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Why not?

Indeed, I think the comparison is quite obvious.

Pierre · 17-01-2021, 22:46

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Originally Posted by pip08456

See link I added to previous post.

But why cannot you compare that to football players travelling from UK across Europe?

pip08456 · 18-01-2021, 00:23

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Australia currently has a weekly cap on the number of international arrivals, with people having to undergo quarantine in a designated facility.

There are roughly 37,000 Australians waiting to return.

How do footballers affect Europeans in comparison?

jfman · 18-01-2021, 00:34

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How do footballers affect Europeans in comparison?

How do the tennis players affect Australians?

Are they using places that would be made available to Australians stuck overseas? Otherwise the point is moot.

The reality is all countries are making some exceptions which JHB doesn't acknowledge in her tweets. Footballers here is a perfect comparison to make.

The Australian Open will be played making millions in revenue from sponsors, television companies and will have fans in attendance. Just as the Premiership and Champions League have resumed as a cash cow with exceptional treatment for footballers Australia have created an exception to facilitate tennis.

I think we all know JHB's game here which is to criticise a lockdown success story - Australia.

nomadking · 18-01-2021, 00:41

Whatever the rights or wrongs of the 2 tournaments, there are differences.
The Tennis involves lots of individuals coming from all around the world for a two week event. The Football mainly involves 2 teams who are meant to be already taking appropriate measures, for something lasting a few hours.

jfman · 18-01-2021, 00:50

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Whatever the rights or wrongs of the 2 tournaments, there are differences.
The Tennis involves lots of individuals coming from all around the world for a two week event. The Football mainly involves 2 teams who are meant to be already taking appropriate measures, for something lasting a few hours.

However the point of moving the tennis players now, for a tournament taking place from 8th February, is to ensure they are taking appropriate measures.

I'm not saying we shouldn't play football or other elite sport if it's possible to do so safely - I'm just pointing out that JHB can't really point to Australia being a bad example when we opened travel corridors for "high value business travellers" among other things.