Coronavirus

Originally Posted by Hom3r

I think the term "Nazi State" & "Tin-foil hat" is highly offensive.

I guess you'll have to be offended then.

To me it seems the only people who use this object to the rules that are in place and want freedom without a care for anyone.

Tut, such an offensive statement and assumption.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Domestically, though it is a non-starter.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ovid-passports

They’re inevitable.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ovid-passports

They’re inevitable.

And have public support.

Most Britons support the idea of vaccine passports, according to a new poll - with 62% saying they would be fine with using one to get into a pub or restaurant.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...urvey-12261755

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

And have public support.

They don't have mine.

[nomadking]

Perhaps people would prefer the rules and situation in France?
Link

All schools and non-essential shops will shut for four weeks, and a curfew will be in place from 19:00 to 06:00.
...
France is currently battling a peak of about 5,000 Covid patients in ICUs. On Friday, the country recorded 46,677 new cases and 304 deaths.
As well as the restrictions that came into force on Saturday, from Tuesday people will also need a valid reason to travel more than 10 km (six miles) from their homes.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

They don't have mine.

Just think of the shorter queues in the pubs without those young people with their hard seltzers and pricey craft beers standing between you and the bar.

[joglynne]

Covid passport trials for mass events in England

The government is to trial a series of measures in England, including Covid passports, to allow the safe return of sports matches, events and night clubs.

Passes would show if a person had been vaccinated, had a recent negative test, or natural immunity.

Trial events in the coming months will also explore how ventilation and testing before and after could help audiences return.

The pilots, which will include the FA Cup final, will last until mid-May.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56625307

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ovid-passports

They’re inevitable.

Another black mark against Boris and disappointing u-turn and over reaction, if only there was an opposition with an alternative strategy I could get behind.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

And have public support.


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...urvey-12261755

The country has been fear mongered into submission and are now compliant, well done HMG

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Another black mark against Boris and disappointing u-turn and over reaction, if only there was an opposition with an alternative strategy I could get behind.

And what alternative strategy would that be? Make everybody wait, when it isn't necessary for all of them to do so?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by nomadking

And what alternative strategy would that be? Make everybody wait, when it isn't necessary for all of them to do so?

Just don’t have Covid passports, that’ll work for me.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Just don’t have Covid passports, that’ll work for me.

And me.


I'm a little worried about what happens when the gov create 2nd class citizens and what their reactions might be.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Just don’t have Covid passports, that’ll work for me.

So people who can safely travel abroad or go to events should be prevented from doing so? That is discrimination.
Needing a vaccine passport, won't impact me personally either way, but that doesn't mean I should hold back others who wish to do those activities.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

And me.


I'm a little worried about what happens when the gov create 2nd class citizens and what their reactions might be.

Count me in.

Oh, and I smoke, drink, and drive an oldish 1.8 petrol car so I've been a second class citizen for years while paying heavily into the Govt. coffers . . . my reaction usually involves two fingers and a jerky hand motion

Well other countries may well decide that anyone wishing to visit will need some sort of proof of vaccination. It's happened in the past.

Originally Posted by Pierre

I wasn’t wrong, it may not have been “the” flu, which in itself if a vague term as the flu changes annually, but it was, and is “a” flu.

So what’s your point?

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Fine, be offended.



No, just proportionality.



And? I don’t see what that position adds to the discussion.

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It’s not going abroad that is the issue, vaccination certificates could quite easily be a requirement for foreign travel, no issue there.

Domestically, though it is a non-starter.

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The new world order salutes you.

Science, and the medical profession, disagree...

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/artic...t-the-flu.html

No, COVID-19 Is Not the Flu

There’s a refrain among some skeptics that “COVID-19 is just the flu,” which is not at all accurate.

https://www.labnews.co.uk/article/20...-a-type-of-flu

from a virological point of view, coronavirus is definitely not a type of flu.

Conclusion

COVID-19 is not a type of flu and describing it as such may not have been very helpful

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...577-4/fulltext

COVID-19 is not influenza

COVID-19 is often compared to influenza. In the middle of a pandemic with a new coronavirus transmitted from the respiratory tract, it is obvious to look at previous influenza pandemics and seasonal influenza for comparison. Yet it is important to understand that COVID-19 is not influenza.