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jfman · 13-10-2020, 16:28

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Do any of these tax rises affect you?

Very likely, yes.

Mad Max · 13-10-2020, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Paul

Here we go, lets tax the rich & spend, spend, spend ..... the 1970's are calling you.

Life on Mars.

jfman · 13-10-2020, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Paul

Here we go, lets tax the rich & spend, spend, spend ..... the 1970's are calling you.

You can only “save” yourself into further recession with further austerity. GDP is as much about how quickly you move money around an economy, rather than how much you’ve got in it.

Anyway, I was simply pointing out that Sweden, high on the world happiness index, has some different social attitudes from the “freedom loving” UK.

1andrew1 · 13-10-2020, 17:35

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Originally Posted by Paul

Here we go, lets tax the rich & spend, spend, spend ..... the 1970's are calling you.

Is the solution a higher basic rate tax for everyone, increased VAT or more borrowing?
Being slightly more efficient won't pay off the massive tax burden BoJo's government has bestowed on the country.

jonbxx · 13-10-2020, 17:39

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Originally Posted by jfman

Anyway, I was simply pointing out that Sweden, high on the world happiness index, has some different social attitudes from the “freedom loving” UK.

Yeah, the social contract in Sweden is very strong compared to the UK. The whole Sweden didn't lock down thing is a bit of a myth - the government asked people to be careful and everyone locked themselves down if they could. Our site in Sweden pretty much closed down in March for office staff and everyone has worked from home since apart from manufacturing. No one complained, people saw it as their duty to stop the disease spreading.

They pay a lot in tax but get a lot in return

1andrew1 · 13-10-2020, 18:22

Newsflash - Sir Keir is asking the government to introduce a circuit breaker of up to three weeks, in line with the SAGE advice.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...kdown-12103329

jfman · 13-10-2020, 18:27

The bold Kier with a policy proposal. Just not the one some were hoping for...

Mad Max · 13-10-2020, 18:29

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Newsflash - Sir Keir is asking the government to introduce a circuit breaker of up to three weeks, in line with the SAGE advice.
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...kdown-12103329

A circuit breaker in areas that have very low or no infections, that's a great idea.

jfman · 13-10-2020, 18:32

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

A circuit breaker in areas that have very low or no infections, that's a great idea.

Keeps them lower. Stops those migrating from lockdown areas to for a day by the seaside and a pint.

The more I think about this it's a stroke of genius for Keir. A second national lockdown is near inevitable, with the CMO saying Tier 3 won't be enough in all instances. Boris hasn't ruled out a second national lockdown - so if/when we get there - and the science says we would have less deaths had we done so one week/two weeks earlier, Keir is laughing all the way to the next election.

Mad Max · 13-10-2020, 18:39

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Originally Posted by jfman

Keeps them lower. Stops those migrating from lockdown areas to for a day by the seaside and a pint.

Still don't agree, a day by the seaside in October doesn't really appeal, as far as a pint goes, well, they could venture to the central belt in Scotland but be seriously disappointed....

jfman · 13-10-2020, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

Still don't agree, a day by the seaside in October doesn't really appeal, as far as a pint goes, well, they could venture to the central belt in Scotland but be seriously disappointed....

I'd go to the sea for a pint under these restrictions

Mad Max · 13-10-2020, 19:07

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Originally Posted by jfman

I'd go to the sea for a pint under these restrictions

Saltcoats?

papa smurf · 13-10-2020, 19:14

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

Still don't agree, a day by the seaside in October doesn't really appeal, as far as a pint goes, well, they could venture to the central belt in Scotland but be seriously disappointed....

I live at the seaside and i'll be having a couple of beers tonight[out of the fridge]

Mad Max · 13-10-2020, 19:17

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

I live at the seaside and i'll be having a couple of beers tonight[out of the fridge]

Good man.....

1andrew1 · 13-10-2020, 19:31

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Originally Posted by jfman

Keeps them lower. Stops those migrating from lockdown areas to for a day by the seaside and a pint.

The more I think about this it's a stroke of genius for Keir. A second national lockdown is near inevitable, with the CMO saying Tier 3 won't be enough in all instances. Boris hasn't ruled out a second national lockdown - so if/when we get there - and the science says we would have less deaths had we done so one week/two weeks earlier, Keir is laughing all the way to the next election.

A national lockdown explicitly pits Boris against members of his own party who are against further restrictions and aligns him with the Opposition. It makes it harder for him to get a lock down accepted in his own party whilst at the same time his scientific advisers will probably gain confidence in advocating one again. Great move.

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

Still don't agree, a day by the seaside in October doesn't really appeal, as far as a pint goes, well, they could venture to the central belt in Scotland but be seriously disappointed....

I understand Cumbria has issued warnings for fans venturing across the border to see the Old Firm Derby in a pub - the rule of six applies. That's probably a luxury compared to drinking outside in rather fresh air and no screens.