Coronavirus - Page 393

Sephiroth · 15-06-2021, 18:29

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

Just watching the Hungary V Portugal game, there's 67K at the game, do they have Covid under control there?

SPutnik 5 vaccine. Seems to be lowish number of cases right now.

jfman · 15-06-2021, 18:39

9 infections per 100,000 population in last 7 days right now and falling. Vaccine certified crowd as well.

Mr K · 15-06-2021, 19:30

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

SPutnik 5 vaccine. Seems to be lowish number of cases right now.

I wish I'd had a drop of Sputnik instead of the dodgy Oxford stuff.

**Paul** · 15-06-2021, 19:38

I'm sure we could find you some Novichok instead.

Pierre · 15-06-2021, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

Just watching the Hungary V Portugal game, there's 67K at the game, do they have Covid under control there?

Just not risk averse, unlike the muppets we have.

Mr K · 15-06-2021, 19:55

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Just not risk averse, unlike the muppets we have.

Don't know about that. The Hungary defence were observing social distancing very well !

jfman · 15-06-2021, 20:18

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Just not risk averse, unlike the muppets we have.

Vaccine certification is risk mitigation. We just love freedom that much we'd rather not.

jonbxx · 16-06-2021, 11:07

As of last night, I am now officially double jabbed! No side effects this time apart from a very slightly achy arm. The first round (AZ) was pretty nasty in terms of side effects so I am happy not the have that again.

The staff doing the jabs were trying to persuade me that having the second jab was good even if I did get side effects. My reply - preaching to the converted sister, get it in my arm!

Wish I could do something with my forthcoming new found immunity but no, we have to make sure that those who don't want vaccinations are discriminated against

Carth · 16-06-2021, 11:50

I had no symptoms whatsoever with both jabs . . . maybe I'm one of those who still have no antibodies

lock down forever I say, just in case, you know . . .

heero_yuy · 16-06-2021, 12:04

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Quote from the Guardian:

Covid vaccinations are to become mandatory for care home staff under plans to be announced by ministers, as they consider extending the move to all NHS staff.

The controversial measure sets up a likely battle with staff in both services and could lead to the government being sued under European human rights law or equalities legislation for breaching the freedom of people who work in caring roles to decide what they put into their bodies.

The Guardian understands that ministers will confirm they are pushing ahead with compulsory vaccination for most of the 1.5 million people working in social care in England, despite employer and staff organisations in the sector warning that it could backfire if workers quit rather than get immunised. Under the plans those working with adults will have 16 weeks to get vaccinated or face losing their jobs.

The government is also keen to make it mandatory for the 1.38 million people who are directly employed by the NHS in England to get vaccinated against Covid-19 and winter flu – proposals that have already been criticised by groups representing doctors, nurses and other staff.

Could be quite a battle looming.

papa smurf · 16-06-2021, 12:13

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Could be quite a battle looming.

Just what we need a mass exodus from the health services as we go into the winter months.

**Damien** · 16-06-2021, 12:34

I heard some NHS trusts have had such stipulations on vaccines for a while. That if you want to work with patients/vulnerable people you need to have had the standard vaccinations.

papa smurf · 16-06-2021, 12:44

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Originally Posted by Damien

I heard some NHS trusts have had such stipulations on vaccines for a while. That if you want to work with patients/vulnerable people you need to have had the standard vaccinations.

But those standard vaccines are well proven over many years, covid vaccines are new and many people are worried about future complications.

Carth · 16-06-2021, 13:08

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Covid vaccinations are to become mandatory for care home staff under plans to be announced by ministers, as they consider extending the move to all NHS staff.

Is that far removed from local councils insisting that all people working with children/vulnerable adults have to take an enhanced DBS check?

In one case you're protecting children, in the other you're protecting patients

Pierre · 16-06-2021, 13:47

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Originally Posted by Carth

Is that far removed from local councils insisting that all people working with children/vulnerable adults have to take an enhanced DBS check?

In one case you're protecting children, in the other you're protecting patients

Only in so far as the local council aren't trying to insert the DBS check into your blood stream with genetically engineered Viral RNA, though I hear that is coming soon.