Muslim paedo escapes jail saying he did not know 13 was underage
08-02-2013, 11:16
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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Originally Posted by Sirius
To be honest i feel this result will stand because if its changed he and his family will scream "RACISAM" 
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It's not a racial issue it's a religious one apparently but I take your point.However British law is very clear about various religions in this country having to adhere to the laws on under-age sex and under-age marriage so I do think someone in authority will be saying something before a precedent is set.
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08-02-2013, 11:19
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
Can a lenient sentence be changed?
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08-02-2013, 11:38
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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Can a lenient sentence be changed?
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Yes, it can happen both ways.
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08-02-2013, 12:15
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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Can a lenient sentence be changed?
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Lets hope so
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08-02-2013, 12:30
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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When someone has been found guilty of a crime in a court of law, the judge decides what sentence they should serve. In some cases, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), or another interested party, may think that the sentence is not severe enough and can contact the Attorney General to request him to consider if the case should be referred to the Court of Appeal.
It is then for the Court of Appeal to decide whether the sentence is 'unduly lenient'.
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http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/fact_shee...ent_sentences/
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Referral to the Court of Appeal is possible only for some types of offence, and must be carried out by the Attorney General within 28 days of the day after sentencing. This 28 day time limit is fixed and cannot be extended.
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At the Old Bailey, a defendant was convicted of causing death by dangerous driving and ordered to do community service. The CPS referred the case to the Attorney General, who referred it to the Court of Appeal. The sentence was increased to a prison sentence of three and a half years.
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08-02-2013, 12:59
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
Who can complain that a sentence is unduly lenient?
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Victims, their families, and members of the public may complain to their local CPS Area office, which may refer the sentence to the Attorney General if they consider the sentence to be unduly lenient
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Come on puplic. let's put this person behind bars where he belongs.
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08-02-2013, 13:10
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
I think that there is less than a week before time runs out
if the date of the first release is right 25th Jan then we have 2 weeks.
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08-02-2013, 13:18
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
If his defence was that he didn't know it was illegal to have sex with a girl of 13 (I presume UK law he was referring to)
then what of his own religion (which he based his ignorance on) is there any age restrictions in 'Muslim' law?
Does it even recognise rape of a child?
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08-02-2013, 13:27
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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Originally Posted by Gary L
Who can complain that a sentence is unduly lenient?
Come on puplic. let's put this person behind bars where he belongs.
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08-02-2013, 13:38
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
Unless there is something to this case which is not being reported (which wouldn't be that strange given the sources), I'd be surprised if the CPS didn't appeal.
Incidentally: From my reading, the judge didn't actually accept his plea that he didn't know underage sex was illegal. He was spared jail because he suspected it would do him more harm than good, not because the judge accepted his claim.
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08-02-2013, 13:42
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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Originally Posted by danielf
He was spared jail because he suspected it would do him more harm than good, not because the judge accepted his claim.
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More harm?
mess up his mind or something.
ok. that's fair enough.
I don't want to see anyone going to prison for rape or anything if it means doing so will mess up their mind.
It would be good though if the judge could explain what he means by “more damage than good”
because it does sound like it will mean the person will feel like he's being punished if he goes to jail.
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08-02-2013, 13:47
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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More harm?
mess up his mind or something.
ok. that's fair enough.
I don't want to see anyone going to prison for rape or anything if it means doing so will mess up their mind.
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All I'm saying is that it's unclear what exactly led to the judge deciding on a suspended sentence. What we do know is that he did not accept the guy's excuse. If the fact of the case are as presented, then I'd be surprised if the CPS didn't appeal. But I'm also not discounting the possibility that there may be more to this case which isn't reported by the Fail and the Sun.
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08-02-2013, 13:55
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Its no surprise someone like this would say that
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08-02-2013, 13:58
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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Originally Posted by danielf
All I'm saying is that it's unclear what exactly led to the judge deciding on a suspended sentence. What we do know is that he did not accept the guy's excuse. If the fact of the case are as presented, then I'd be surprised if the CPS didn't appeal. But I'm also not discounting the possibility that there may be more to this case which isn't reported by the Fail and the Sun.
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or the local press with the interview with the mother??
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08-02-2013, 14:00
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Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
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Originally Posted by tizmeinnit
or the local press with the interview with the mother??
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Which one is that?
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