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				Which parts of Europe have you been too? There are some extraordinary cities and locations in Europe. There are great places in other parts of the world too but Europe is rich with top places to go, it's got some of the oldest civilizations there - at least Western ones.  
 
The issue with the channel will be how all these structures work. I imagine we'll be able to go into Europe without a visa, I am not sure how customs checks will work or how the flight area works. We can get agreements for all of this but you're on the one advocating we don't do a deal. 
			
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 Which parts of Europe I have been to is irrelevant. You're doing that thing again, inventing things up I have never said. I never said there is no where decent to go in Europe, I said there is better places to go, than Europe and that is a factual analysis.
 
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				Since then we've built up many ties and built infrastructure within how the EU works. I.E No customs checks, agreements on flights and tons of regulation. We're now talking about just stopping that suddenly. 40+ years worth of work is not easily dismantled and replaced in 2 years. 
			
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 It's the EU that's being bloody difficult as always, demanding concessions all the time - they are a corrupt set of unelected old morons, who totally disgust me. I no longer want to be a EU Citizen, I absolutely detest everything about the EU and what it has become and what it wants to become. 
 
Finally the Brits have a chance to stand up to these EU imbeciles and say no bloody more, we want out, that's how it should be if we had a strong PM.
 
As Inventor and Entrepreneur Sir James Dyson has said - Us leaving the EU, would hurt them more than it would hurt us.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-07-2018, 13:15
			
			
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				Which parts of Europe I have been to is irrelevant. You're doing that thing again, inventing things up I have never said. I never said there is no where decent to go in Europe, I said there is better places to go, than Europe and that is a factual analysis. 
			
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 I was only asking were went as part of the discussion since it was about places to go. 
 
I didn't say you didn't say there were not decent places to go in Europe. I said there are amazing places to go. It's not a 'factual analysis' to say there are better places to go, it's a subjective opinion. People like different things. 
 
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				As Inventor and Entrepreneur Sir James Dyson has said - Us leaving the EU, would hurt them more than it would hurt us. 
			
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 Their combined economy is far bigger than ours. Their base of possible customers far larger too.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			27-07-2018, 13:20
			
			
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				Which parts of Europe I have been to is irrelevant. You're doing that thing again, inventing things up I have never said. I never said there is no where decent to go in Europe, I said there is better places to go, than Europe and that is a factual analysis. 
 
 
 
It's the EU that's being bloody difficult as always, demanding concessions all the time - they are a corrupt set of unelected old morons, who totally disgust me. I no longer want to be a EU Citizen, I absolutely detest everything about the EU and what it has become and what it wants to become.  
 
Finally the Brits have a chance to stand up to these EU imbeciles and say no bloody more, we want out, that's how it should be if we had a strong PM. 
 
As Inventor and Entrepreneur Sir James Dyson has said - Us leaving the EU, would hurt them more than it would hurt us. 
			
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 aye we be only country in world with 0 trade deals they still have all there's and doing one with USA now too we be just a little island of the cost of Europe so love to have James Dyson tell us that will make them worse of than us
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-07-2018, 13:21
			
			
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				It's the EU that's being bloody difficult as always, demanding concessions all the time - they are a corrupt set of unelected old morons, who totally disgust me. I no longer want to be a EU Citizen, I absolutely detest everything about the EU and what it has become and what it wants to become. 
			
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 Ok, who has kidnapped Damien and replaced him with a  Brexit Bot?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			27-07-2018, 13:28
			
			
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			27-07-2018, 14:19
			
			
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				aye we be only country in world with 0 trade deals they still have all there's and doing one with USA now too we be just a little island of the cost of Europe so love to have James Dyson tell us that will make them worse of than us 
			
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 Can you do that in English ?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Ok, who has kidnapped Damien and replaced him with a Brexit Bot? 
			
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 WTF you calling the " Brexit bot" ?   
You never learn. You are now suspended until further notice.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-07-2018, 17:51
			
			
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				WTF you calling the " Brexit bot" ?   
You never learn. You are now suspended until further notice.  
			
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It's the EU that's being bloody difficult as always, demanding concessions all the time - they are a corrupt set of unelected old morons, who totally disgust me. I no longer want to be a EU Citizen, I absolutely detest everything about the EU and what it has become and what it wants to become. 
 
 
But somewhat valid nevertheless!  Certainly reflecting or partially reflecting a considerable body of opinion in this thread. 
 
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			27-07-2018, 21:00
			
			
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				I need to apologise here. When I saw Damien's reply that was obviously not in his style, I tried to make a joke that he had been replaced by a Facebook/Twitter style "Bot". I guess my joke did not come across as such    Back to Joke School for me ..  
			
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 Fair enough - I apologise too - I totally took it the wrong way. I blame the heat.    
End result, total over reaction on my part and where I am wrong, I am not ashamed to admit it. I obviously removed the suspension when I was advised it wasn't what you had intended.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			According to Channel 5, we import 70% of the medicines that we need. 
 
Senior civil servants are warning that, if we leave with a no deal Brexit, hospitals will run out of drugs within two weeks. 
 
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				According to Channel 5, we import 70% of the medicines that we need. 
 
Senior civil servants are warning that, if we leave with a no deal Brexit, hospitals will run out of drugs within two weeks. 
 
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 Well medicines are being stockpiled in case of no deal so make your own mind up. Project Fear is becoming reality.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				According to Channel 5, we import 70% of the medicines that we need. 
 
Senior civil servants are warning that, if we leave with a no deal Brexit, hospitals will run out of drugs within two weeks. 
 
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 The underlined being the problem - many civil servants being Remainers, using scaremongering strategies, to scare people, make them panic, when there is absolutely no need to.
 
We managed in the 70's... we can and will manage again if people really truly believe that Britain can do things without the EU like we did 40 years to prior to ever joining the Union, sure let's do a deal but we do not want to be shackled to the EU and they tell us what we can and cannot do still, problem is there is saboteurs at every corner who want  Brexit to fail, to prove and say, "I told you so.", it is so wrong and sad, a country should be able to thrive and strive on it's own without the meddling of a corrupt union, aka the EU.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				The underlined being the problem - many civil servants being Remainers, using scaremongering strategies, to scare people, make them panic, when there is absolutely no need to. 
 
We managed in the 70's... we can and will manage again if people really truly believe that Britain can do things without the EU like we did 40 years to prior to ever joining the Union, sure let's do a deal but we do not want to be shackled to the EU and they tell us what we can and cannot do still, problem is there is saboteurs at every corner who want Brexit to fail, to prove and say, "I told you so.", it is so wrong and sad, a country should be able to thrive and strive on it's own without the meddling of a corrupt union, aka the EU. 
			
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 Why did we join if everything was so brilliant pre-EU then? And why were we desperate to join years before we were eventually accepted? 
 
As for the corrupt EU, I still don't recall any major corruption. Are you looking to that uncorrupted pair of gangsters Trump/Putin for trade?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-07-2018, 22:28
			
			
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				According to Channel 5, we import 70% of the medicines that we need. 
 
Senior civil servants are warning that, if we leave with a no deal Brexit, hospitals will run out of drugs within two weeks. 
 
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 Whats the Eu going to do shut down drug production or stockpile thousands of tons of drugs until the companies go bankrupt  
how many Eu countries can afford to lose trade with the UK . 
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