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		|  30-11-2020, 12:13 | #1246 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  You may have had it already ? |  Nope - been tested twice. 
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					Originally Posted by Carth  No idea who's saying it's 'apparently non-existent, fake' . . . unless you're taking it from my post ?
 
In which case it shows that different people get different meanings from the same 'data'   |  Nope...
 
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		|  30-11-2020, 12:22 | #1247 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  Nope - been tested twice.
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		|  30-11-2020, 12:52 | #1248 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  Nope - been tested twice. |  Good,  but that only means you hadn’t had it then.............
 
I’m having a minor surgical procedure done in two weeks and have to be tested on the 10th before I have it.  So I’ll find out then!
		 
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		|  30-11-2020, 13:06 | #1249 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  Nope - been tested twice.
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 |  Doesn’t matter. If you have had only 2 tests, since March, you could have still have had Covid-19, and not have known about it. Majority of individuals who have got infected, have been asymptomatic, such individuals can carry the virus and show on repeated tests that they are infected for up to six weeks. In my case. I’ve now been tested over 20 times. One result came back positive. I had zero symptoms. I had a follow up test about 4 weeks later, the result came back negative. 
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  Good,  but that only means you hadn’t had it then............. |  Correct. The tests are a snapshot of a person’s biological infectious state at the time of the test only. A person could have had the test, comes back negative but they were infected on the way home from the test.
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		|  30-11-2020, 13:07 | #1250 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mick   <snip> . . Majority of individuals who have got infected, have been asymptomatic, such individuals can carry the virus and show on repeated tests that they are infected for up to six weeks. |  Which is slightly alarming considering people who test positive self isolate for a week before returning to work . . . or can't you 'transmit' it after a week?
		 
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		|  30-11-2020, 13:28 | #1251 |  
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			What has happened to the antibody tests. We don't seem to hear anything about them anymore.
		 
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		|  30-11-2020, 13:38 | #1252 |  
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  What has happened to the antibody tests. We don't seem to hear anything about them anymore. |  Wonder if that's anything to do with this
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		|  30-11-2020, 13:46 | #1253 |  
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		|  30-11-2020, 14:08 | #1254 |  
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					Originally Posted by Carth  Which is slightly alarming considering people who test positive self isolate for a week before returning to work . . . or can't you 'transmit' it after a week? |  There is a 10 day window in which after incubation occurs, a person is most infectious. After which Covid can remain in the body for several more weeks.
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		|  30-11-2020, 14:16 | #1255 |  
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			More  mixed messaging from the government it seems on what counts as a substantial meal in tier 2 pubs. 
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		| Robert Jenrick(13/10) - A Cornish Pasty with chips & side salad is a substantial meal. 
 George Eustice(30/11) - A Scotch Egg would probably count as a substantial meal as it can be served as a starter.
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		|  30-11-2020, 14:56 | #1256 |  
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					Originally Posted by denphone   |  And, away from the twattersphere, what George Eustace actually said:
 
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		| ” I think a Scotch egg probably would count as a substantial meal if there were table service. "Often that might be as a starter but yes I think it would, but this is a term that's understood in licensing... you can have the concept of a table licence for alcohol that also requires you to serve a substantial meal.
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I think unless you’re a Labour party hack or a second rate political journalist still desperate for new COVID story angles, there really isn’t anything difficult to understand about these rules.
		 
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					Originally Posted by denphone   |  Den, I think your first quote should have a "not" in it.    |  
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		|  30-11-2020, 15:02 | #1258 |  
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			So much for "firebreaks" working.Link 
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		|  30-11-2020, 15:21 | #1259 |  
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	... and how stupid the application of devolution to Covid has been.  What's more, it's being put to cynical political use by that Sturgeon woman.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by nomadking  So much for "firebreaks" working.Link |  
 
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		|  30-11-2020, 15:22 | #1260 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mick  Doesn’t matter. If you have had only 2 tests, since March, you could have still have had Covid-19, and not have known about it. Majority of individuals who have got infected, have been asymptomatic, such individuals can carry the virus and show on repeated tests that they are infected for up to six weeks. In my case. I’ve now been tested over 20 times. One result came back positive. I had zero symptoms. I had a follow up test about 4 weeks later, the result came back negative.
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 Correct. The tests are a snapshot of a person’s biological infectious state at the time of the test only. A person could have had the test, comes back negative but they were infected on the way home from the test.
 |  My tests were October 24th and November 12th, and I’m having another on on Thursday 3rd December.
		 
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