Coronavirus - Page 440

mrmistoffelees · 20-07-2021, 17:37

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Yeah but freedom and I hate wearing a mask etc

My maths is probably way way off, we'll see. I can't help but think that the F1 and Euro 2020 crowds were not the best of ideas.

Sephiroth · 20-07-2021, 17:44

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

So no bio hazard gear for you then?

It's voluntary, Papa.

Pierre · 20-07-2021, 17:45

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

96 deaths today, cases from 10,11,12 days ago average at approx 31,000

as ever that is date death reported not date they died, therefore the data is lumpy. 19 yesterday, 96 today. the seven day average is around 48 per day, 352 for the week.

approx 9750 people day every week in just England & Wales.

That would mean COVID related deaths = 0.035% of total death in the last week.

mrmistoffelees · 20-07-2021, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Pierre

as ever that is date death reported not date they died, therefore the data is lumpy. 19 yesterday, 96 today. the seven day average is around 48 per day, 352 for the week.

approx 9750 people day every week in just England & Wales.

That would mean COVID related deaths = 0.035% of total death in the last week.

I dont disagree that there's some variance/fluidity. but a near 100% increase week on week should at least raise an eyebrow ?

heero_yuy · 20-07-2021, 18:08

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I dont disagree that there's some variance/fluidity. but a near 100% increase week on week should at least raise an eyebrow ?

Small data sets are notoriously "noisy" Let's see what the averages do.

mrmistoffelees · 20-07-2021, 18:29

Here's some week on week data to mull over.

46,558 cases in the UK. +9,898
96 deaths in the UK. +46
745 patients admitted to hospital in the UK. +181
4,567 patients in hospital in the UK. +1,836
611 patients on ventilation in the UK. +194

Carth · 20-07-2021, 18:52

Seems like Scotland figures are decreasing . .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-57896887

Slight rise in Wales . .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57900599

N. Ireland sees a slight rise in hospital cases, but a drop of those in intensive care . .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57905606

*disclaimer: all figures probably contain inaccuracies due to dates of infection/death and reported dates of infection/death

**Chris** · 20-07-2021, 19:19

Also, Scottish school holidays began almost a month ago. There has been less mixing of children, but perhaps more significantly, a lot less twice-weekly lateral flow testing.

Infection rates really are meaningless now. It’s all about how much pressure hospitals are under.

**Hugh** · 20-07-2021, 19:21

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

i won't be turning my next shopping trip into a virtue signalling exercise.

Being considerate of others’ health is not "virtue signalling" - strange that anyone would think so…

I suppose you believe that stopping to let pedestrians cross the road at a pedestrian crossing is "virtue signalling"?

(only if you use your indicators

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papa smurf · 20-07-2021, 19:40

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Being considerate of others’ health is not "virtue signalling" - strange that anyone would think so…

I suppose you believe that stopping to let pedestrians cross the road at a pedestrian crossing is "virtue signalling"?

(only if you use your indicators

)

i think stopping at a pedestrian crossing is defined in law as is mask wearing in a supermarket.

heero_yuy · 20-07-2021, 19:53

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

i think stopping at a pedestrian crossing is defined in law as is mask wearing in a supermarket.

At this moment there is no law about mask wearing in supermarkets. Legally no requirement but individual companies may apply recommendations but they are not legally enforceable.

mrmistoffelees · 20-07-2021, 19:57

An interesting development at the border

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...-list-arrivals

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

At this moment there is no law about mask wearing in supermarkets. Legally no requirement but individual companies may apply recommendations but they are not legally enforceable.

I don’t think they need to be legally enforceable for them to refuse to serve you (should they so wish)

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

i think stopping at a pedestrian crossing is defined in law as is mask wearing in a supermarket.

There’s no legal requirement to stop at a pedestrian crossing

papa smurf · 20-07-2021, 20:04

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

An interesting development at the border

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...-list-arrivals

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I don’t think they need to be legally enforceable for them to refuse to serve you (should they so wish)

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There’s no legal requirement to stop at a pedestrian crossing

run em over then but wear a mask

TheDaddy · 20-07-2021, 20:07

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

run em over then but wear a mask

Bit extreme, just run the ones not wearing a mask over

Pierre · 20-07-2021, 20:09

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Being considerate of others’ health is not "virtue signalling" - strange that anyone would think so…

I suppose you believe that stopping to let pedestrians cross the road at a pedestrian crossing is "virtue signalling"?

No, because it’s the law.

Trust me, if the average motorist was not compelled to allow pedestrians to cross at a Zebra crossing due them having the right of way or forced to via a red light, most wouldn’t.